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Post by tyguy on Apr 29, 2011 14:19:35 GMT -4
Game 6
Old Timers 14, Washington 1Washington 100 000 000 - 1 9 1 Old Timers 590 000 000 - 14 20 0 WP: Keefe (2-0) LP: Foster (1-1) HR: Anson (1) A huge blow out in game six as the Old Timers win 14-1, and win the series four games to two. Big Bill Foster was hammered for eight runs on 10 hits in one inning. Martin Dihigo moved from shortstop to pitcher in the second and gave up six more runs before getting out of the inning. Cap Anson went 3 for 5 with a grand slam and five RBI. Billy Hamilton had four hits and three runs scored. Ed Delahanty went 3 for 5 with three RBI. Tim Keefe went the distance for the win, giving up one run on nine hits with seven strikeouts. (back of the card) Adrian "Cap" Ansonwww.baseball-reference.com/players/a/ansonca01.shtmlAnson was baseball's first great national hero, the Babe Ruth of the premodern era. His career spanned 27 years (1871-1897) and he hit over .300 in 24 of those seasons. HIs 22 years in the National League - all with Chicago - is a league record for most consecutive seasons played and most seasons with one team. He also holds the NL record for most seasons over .300 (19). Anson is one of a handful of major leaguers to get over 3,000 hits (3,041) and he owned a lifetime average of .333. He is credited with inventing the hit-and-run play. In addition to his playing feats, Anson also managed five pennant winners.
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Post by tyguy on Apr 29, 2011 15:07:30 GMT -4
I have an old HOF baseball card set so I'll start scanning them in by teams in this tournament. Here's the Old Timers which just beat the Washington Homestead Grays in six games. I can pick a player of the game and post the pic and type in the back of the card, do a little educating while playing lol. s156.photobucket.com/albums/t26/tystates/Baseball%20HOF/Old%20Timers/
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Post by wildfire on Apr 29, 2011 15:23:12 GMT -4
That's a cool set... I think I have it somewhere too (or my dad does). Too bad they don't make stuff like that anymore. I remember as a kid going to Coopertown and getting all kinds of cool little TCMA card sets... I have a bunch of 'All-Time' team sets that are similar.
I think my favorite though, are the Hall of Fame Plaque postcards... IIRC, my dad has a complete set of them... it's awesome flipping through them.
As to the series, tough for the grays to waste what sounds like an epic performance by Josh Gibson.
You know what would be really a neat sports game thing to do? Take the negro league teams and split them up in an 'integration draft' for whatever years they're for.. and work them into the 'regular' teams.
Be fun to see who shines, and who ends up out of the league.
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Post by tyguy on Apr 29, 2011 15:34:40 GMT -4
The strat pdf book for the Negro Set lists the best seasons to use each player with in an integrated league. I know a lot of people have done that with the set, placing players on teams in 1927, 1934, etc.
I've got all the stats to do for the last series and update the season stats, but Gibson didn't do a lot but hit 3 HR. Ok he ended up with nine hits in the series, 3HR, 8 RBI. So not bad. The last two games of the series I flipped him and Mule Suttles in the order putting Suttles third and Gibson fourth.
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Post by tyguy on Apr 29, 2011 18:51:29 GMT -4
Old Timers Series StatsTeam Avg .357 Runs 41 Billy Hamilton .500 / 15 for 30 / 9r / 9 RBIwww.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamilbi01.shtmlHamilton could be considered the "Lou Brock of the 19th century." In an era when stolen bases were more common than home runs - and rules crediting stolen bases were different - Hamilton was the best of his class. In a 14-year career (1888-1901), Hamilton stole 912 bases and three times stole more than 100 in a season. His 115 steals in 1891 stood as the record until Brock broke it in 1974. A magnificent leadoff batter whose on-base percentage was phenomenal, Hamilton scored more than 130 runs in a season eight times and holds the single season record of 192 seet in 1894 when he played just 129 games. Billy's .344 lifetime batting average ranks eighth on the all-time list. Ed Delahanty .464 / 9 RBIwww.baseball-reference.com/players/d/delahed01.shtmlOne of five brothers to play major league baseball, "Big Ed" was one of the greatest hitters of all-time, ranking fourth on the list with a .346 career average. Delahanty played 16 years (1888-1903) in the major leagues and is the only player ever to win batting titles in both leagues. He posted a .410 average for Philadelphia in 1899 to lead the NL and hit .376 for Washington in 1902 to win the AL title. Ed, who hit .404 in 1895, is one of only eight players to hit .400 twice during his career. He was also one of only 10 players to hit four home runs in a game, accomplishing the feat on July 13, 1896. Delahanty was tragically killed on July 2, 1903, while still an active player. Sam Thompson .414 / 7rwww.baseball-reference.com/players/t/thompsa01.shtmlBig Sam was one of baseball's early power-hitters but played in an era (1885-1906) when the home run was not appreciated. Thompson twice led the National League in home runs and his 20 homers in 1889 was a staggering figure for that era. A lifetime .331 hitter, Thompson batted over .400 (.404) in 1894 and eight times drove in 100 or more runs. He drove in 1,299 runs in only 1,410 major league games, the highest percentage in baseball history. Sam is also credited with developing the one-bounce throw from the outfield to home plate. Team ERA 3.63 Runs Allowed 23 Walks 5 (57 inn) Tim Keefe 1-0 / 2.25 ERAwww.baseball-reference.com/players/k/keefeti01.shtmlKeefe was one of six 19th century pitchers to win more than 300 games. Remarkably, Keefe accomplished the feat in only 14 seasons. In six consecutive seasons (1883-88) he won more than 30 games, reaching a high of 42 victories in 1886. In 1883, "Sir Timothy" tied a major league record by winning 19 consecutive games and beating every other team in the league. On July 4, 1883, he won both ends of a doubleheader, pitching a one-hitter and a two-hitter. In the 1886 season Keefe pitched 62 complete games and he ranks third on the all-time list with 557 complete games. John Clarkson 3g / 1 sv. / 1.50 ERAwww.baseball-reference.com/players/c/clarkjo01.shtmlClarkson was one of the outstanding pitchers during the pre-1900 era of the dead ball. During a 12-year career he won 327 games (an average of 27 victories a season) and lost 177 while pitching for Chicago, Boston and Cleveland of the National League. Six times he won more than 30 games in a season, including five years in a row. In 1885 he won 53 games for Chicago and in 1889 he won 49 for Boston. Clarkson's secret for success was his long fingers which enabled him to throw a curveball effortlessly and put less strain on the rest of his arm. Clarkson, however, had a problem with temperament and when his arm finally gave out, he became very despondent. He died in a mental hospital.
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Post by tyguy on Apr 29, 2011 22:26:16 GMT -4
Washington Series StatsTeam Avg .284 Runs 23 Josh Gibson .346 / 3 HR / 8RBIGibson is considered by many baseball historians to be the greatest catcher of all-time, even though he never played in the major leagues. A renowned power-hitter, comparable many felt to Babe Ruth, Gibson is believed to have hit as many as 84 home runs in a season. Famed for his tape-measure home runs, Gibson is reported to have been the only man ever to hit a fair ball out of Yankee Stadium, belting one high over the upper deck in leftfield. Gibson spent his entire career in the Negro Leagues and died in 1946 - the year before Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. Chino Smith .423 Mule Suttles .417 Willard Brown .308 Team ERA 6.18 Runs Allowed 41 Sam Streeter, Slim Jones, Roosevelt Davis: 8g / 15 inn / 11H / 0.00 ERA
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Post by tyguy on Apr 30, 2011 19:02:04 GMT -4
Old Timers Tournament StatsRecord: 8-5 Runs Scored 80 Team Avg .332 Dan Brouthers .444www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/broutda01.shtmlBrouthers was considered the most powerful hitter of his era (1879-1904) and won five batting titles. A lifetime .343 hitter, Brouthers was the first player ever to win back to back titles (1882-83). On Sept. 10, 1886, Brouthers hit three home runs in a game - a rare feat for the deadball era. During his 19-year career Brouthers batted over .300 for 16 consecutive seasons. He led the National League in slugging percentage for six consecutive seasons and ranks eighth on the all-time list for triples. He played for eight teams during his career but achieved his greatest fame with Detroit. Billy Hamilton .415 / 14R / 10 RBI / 5-8 SB John Ward .419 Ed Delahanty .344 / 13 RBI Sam Thompson .356 George Davis .339 Team ERA 3.46 Runs Allowed 52 Tim Keefe 2-0 / 2.25 ERA Al Spalding 3-0 / 2.05 ERA John Clarkson 6G / 0-1 / 2-4 SVS / 2.00 ERA Washington Tournament StatsRecord: 4-8 Runs Scored 51 Team Avg .268 Chino Smith .400 Mule Suttles .383 / 3 HR / 8 RBI / 10R Josh Gibson .280 / 5 HR / 7 doubles / 11 RBI Team ERA 5.82 Runs Allowed 77 Sam Streeter 6G / 1-1 SV / 1.13 ERA Slim Jones 4G / 0-1 / 1.13 ERA Roosevelt Davis 5G / 0-1 / 2-2 SVS / 3.52 ERA Series Recap
Old Timers def. Washington four games to twoG1 Old Timers 6, Washington 5 (12 inn) G2 Washington 5, Old Timers 4 (10 inn) G3 Old Timers 9, Washington 4 G4 Old Timers 4, Washington 3 G5 Washington 5, Old Timers 4 G6 Old Timers 14, Washington 1 Next Series:Pittsburgh (1-4) vs. Pre Americans (4-1) Probable Starters: G1 Dick Redding (1-0) vs. Stan Coveleski (1-0) G2 Andy Cooper (0-1) vs. Carl Mays (1-0) G3 Bullet Joe Rogan (0-2) vs. Lefty Grove (2-0) G4 Phil Cockrell (0-1) vs. Red Faber (0-1)
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Post by tyguy on Apr 30, 2011 23:17:56 GMT -4
Round 2
Game 1
Pre-Americans 14, Pittsburgh 13 (11 inn)Pittsburgh 000 052 005 01 - 13 17 1 Pre-Americans 520 022 100 02 - 14 15 1 WP: T. Lyons (1-0) LP: E. Hensley (0-1) HR: J. Beckwith (3); B. Dickey (2), A. Simmons (2), J. DiMaggio (3) A ridiculous explosion of offense in this series opener. The Pre-Americans led 7-0 after two innings, 9-5 after five, and 12-7 going into the ninth. The Crawfords scored five in the ninth to tie the game, and even took a 13-12 lead in the top of the 11th. The Pre-Americans bashed Dick Redding for five runs in the first. Joe DiMaggio drove in two with a bases-loaded single. Bill Dickey belted a three-run homer to cap the inning. In the second, Al Simmons ripped a two-run shot (HR split was 1 and he rolled a 1). Pittsburgh woke up with five runs in the fifth off Stan Coveleski. The lead off batter reached on a strikeout and wild pitch. That proved costly as no runs would have scored if not for that play. A bases-loaded walk to Bullet Joe Rogan started the scoring. Tank Carr hit a sacrifice fly for the second out. Louis Santop singled a run home, then after a walk, pinch-hitter Chaney White plated two runs with a base hit. The Crawfords felt good back in the game at 7-5, but DiMaggio hit a two-run homer off reliever Bill Drake to take a 9-5 lead. Both teams scored two runs in the sixth. Down 12-7 in the ninth, the Crawfords didn't quit. The first seven batters reached base against Ted Lyons. Candy Jim Taylor hit a two-run single with the bases load. Dobie Moore singled two runs in. John Beckwith brought in another run with a single. An error on Lou Gehrig left the bases loaded with no outs. Lyons got a short flyball to left and two strikeouts to keep the game tied 12-12. Fourth reliever of the day Eggie Hensley came on for the Crawfords and the game moved to the 11th inning. Beckwith launched his third home run of the tournament to give Pittsburgh a 13-12 lead. Earl Averill led off the bottom of the 11th in his first at-bat of the tournament with a pinch-hit triple. A passed ball scored him to tie the game. Charlie Gehringer reached on an error on Carr at first base. A slow grounder to short moved him to second base. Babe Ruth lined a single to scored Gehringer and win the game. www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/averiea01.shtmlOne of the most popular players ever to wear an Indians' uniform, Averill compiled a lifetime batting average of .318 in 13 big league seasons. A stockily built man who used a 44-ounce bat, Averill also was a potent long ball hitter and accounted for 238 career homers. Earl's greatest season came in 1931 when he batted .333, hit 32 homers, scored 140 runs and drove in 143. Averill is also remembered for lining a ball off Dizzy Dean's foot in the 1937 All-Star game which fractured the Cardinal pitcher's toe. Dean tried to come back too soon after the injury and was never the same again. Charlie Gehringer 4 runs scored Al Simmons 3 RBI Joe DiMaggio 4 RBI Dobie Moore 4 hits John Beckwith 4 RBI
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Post by tyguy on May 1, 2011 15:35:56 GMT -4
Game 2
Pre-Americans 8, Pittsburgh 3Pittsburgh 200 000 100 - 3 7 0 Pre-Americans 020 000 06x - 8 11 0 WP: W. Hoyt (1-0) LP: A. Cooper (0-2) HR: D. Moore (2); T. Lazzeri (1), H. Greenberg (1) Pittsburgh had a lead but let it slip away and the Pre-Americans take a 2-0 lead in the series with an 8-3 victory. Pete Hill led the game off against Carl Mays with a triple, and Dobie Moore hit a two-run homer to put the Crawfords up 2-0. It didn't last as in the bottom of the second Hank Greenberg doubled, and with two out, Tony Lazzeri homered to tie the game. In the seventh with two out, a walk, hit, and an error on Bobby Doerr gave Pittsburgh a 3-2 lead. The Pre-Americans broke loose with six runs in the bottom of the eighth. Andy Cooper gave up two hits to begin things and Bill Drake came on in relief. He walked Joe DiMaggio and Greenberg smashed a grand slam home run. Doerr plated two more with a two-out, two-run single. Cooper took the loss with seven innings of work. Waite Hoyt picked up the win with one inning of relief. The Pre-Americans started Doerr, Greenberg, Luke Appling and Rick Ferrell for the first time this tournament, replacing Charlie Gehringer, Lou Gehrig, Joe Cronin and Bill Dickey. www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/greenha01.shtmlOnly Jimmie Foxx among right-handed hitters ever hit as many home runs in a single season as Hank Greenberg. In 1938 Greenberg hit 58 home runs and during his 13-year (1930-47) career, 12 of which were spent with the Tigers, Greenberg hit 331 homers and four times led the American League in that department. Greenberg also led the AL in runs batted in three times, reaching a career high of 183 in 1937 - just one RBI short of the AL record held by Lou Gehrig. Greenberg was named the AL's most valuable player twice (1935, 1940) and paced the Tigers to four pennants and two world championships. Greenberg batted .313 lifetime and in 23 World Series games compiled a 318 average.
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Post by wildfire on May 1, 2011 16:10:56 GMT -4
You know the roster's stacked when Hank Greenberg is on the bench.
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Post by tyguy on May 1, 2011 18:03:44 GMT -4
Yeah, and he gets a start, hits two doubles and a grand slam.
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Post by jasonjaconetti on May 1, 2011 18:16:40 GMT -4
You know the roster's stacked when Hank Greenberg is on the bench. Had that issue yesterday with Greenberg. I had his on the bench and played Harmon Killabrew instead, because Killabrew has more walks along with about the same power as Greenberg
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Post by tyguy on May 1, 2011 18:38:10 GMT -4
Greenberg has a higher average than Killebrew though.
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Post by tyguy on May 1, 2011 20:17:18 GMT -4
Game 3
Pre-Americans 9, Pittsburgh 8 (10 inn)Pre-Americans 011 000 132 1 - 9 16 1 Pittsburgh 002 000 015 0 - 8 13 2 WP: T. Lyons (1-0) LP: D. Brown (0-1) HR: B. Ruth (5), C. Gehringer (1); B. Rogan (1) Another wild and crazy offensive battle. The Pre-Americans led 6-2 and 8-3 going into the ninth. Pittsburgh scored five runs in the bottom of the ninth to tie the game. The Pre-Americans scored one in the 10th to pick up a 9-8 victory and a 3-0 lead in the series. Babe Ruth hit two home runs and drove in four. Charlie Gehringer went 5 for 6 with a home run and three RBI. Bullet Joe Rogan had three hits, a triple, home run and three RBI for the Crawfords. The Pre-Americans scored three in the ninth. An error on Tank Carr was followed by Ruth's three-run shot. In the ninth. Gehringer homered for an 8-3 lead. Waite Hoyt couldn't close it out for Lefty Grove, who could have been allowed to finish this one. Instead Hoyt gave up five hits and five runs. Ted Lyons couldn't get the last out before a two-run triple by Rogan. In the 10th, a sac fly by Bill Dickey proved to be the difference. www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gehrich01.shtmlOne of the greatest second basemen in the history of the American League, Gehringer performed so effortlessly and flawlessly on the baseball diamond that he was called "The Mechanical Man." During a 19-year career (1924-42), spent entirely with the Tigers, Gehringer compiled a batting average of .320 and led AL second basemen in assists seven times. Charley scored more than 100 runs in a season 12 times during his career and led the league at least once in hits, doubles, triples, runs scored, batting average and stolen bases. After retiring as a player, Charley served briefly as general manager of the Tigers then later as club's vice-president.
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Post by tyguy on May 1, 2011 21:11:49 GMT -4
Game 4
Pittsburgh 5, Pre-Americans 3
Pre-Americans 000 000 300 - 3 7 0 Pittsburgh 000 011 03x - 5 7 0
WP: E. Hensley (1-1) LP: T. Lyons (0-1) SV: D. Brown (1)
Pittsburgh pulled out a 5-3 win in the bottom of the eighth inning, but still trail the series 3-1.
The Crawfords led 2-0, after Red Faber had retired the first 12 batters of the game. In the seventh, Phil Cockrell gave up the lead. A bases loaded walk to Charlie Gehringer and a two-run double by Sam Rice put the Pre-Americans up 3-2.
Ted Lyons blew the save for the second day in a row. With one out, a pair of singles and a double by Dobie Moore tied the game. Oscar "Heavy" Johnson drove in two with a single for the 5-3 lead. Dave Brown got thru the ninth for the save.
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