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Post by behindthebook on Nov 24, 2010 11:24:46 GMT -4
A "Handsome Stranger" version of Buff Bagwell.
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Post by wildfire on Nov 24, 2010 12:18:00 GMT -4
Early Harley (as a tag guy, I'm assuming) and Brutus the Barber both sound great, but not so much as LoWOnline... If there's not new art, I'd be more inclined to do it myself that pay for it.
I only know the Mongols from their being in LoW so Bolo doesn't do a lot for me.. it it a very different card?
Some I'd like to see:
AWA face Curt Hennig (top of the list, for sure) Heck, I could see two different ones.. one as a rookie to tag with dad, the other as a near main eventer when he and 'I love my Tom Selleck 'Stache' Scott Hall were the young, up and coming new faces of the federation.
A 'real' version of Studd.. call him whatever it takes. Singles Version of Bobby Eaton (though not sure if it'd be different enough)
Varsity Club Steve Williams and Kevin Sullivan (assuming the card we're getting is evil Sullivan)
As to managers, I don't like having them wrestle, so I'd rather have a cool interference chart. Both is the ideal, though.
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Post by tyguy on Nov 24, 2010 12:38:07 GMT -4
I can see possibly down the road these alternates cards being the start of a slippery slope. There is the danger of having some of these getting too strong for the person's place in history, ala some of the territory specific bootleg sets where the main eventer in Memphis is on par with the various world champs that are in the game.
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Post by behindthebook on Nov 24, 2010 13:02:27 GMT -4
I only know the Mongols from their being in LoW so Bolo doesn't do a lot for me.. it it a very different card? Bolo's very different, and will be a solid if un-inspiring option for the Mongols. I for one am very glad for Bolo's release, as I have Volkoff pulling double duty as Bepo Mongol and Executioner #3 and had a match coming up that would have pressed the issue. Now, Bolo can take Bepo's place. I can see possibly down the road these alternates cards being the start of a slippery slope. There is the danger of having some of these getting too strong for the person's place in history, ala some of the territory specific bootleg sets where the main eventer in Memphis is on par with the various world champs that are in the game. I think that's a very valid concern. The good news is it takes so long for Promoters to come out that hopefully this won't be a problem for a good long while.
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Post by tyguy on Nov 24, 2010 13:23:41 GMT -4
That probably won't happen, but you have to watch yourself when you start looking at a guy and making a card for him when he booked better and you're looking at doing a stronger card then he has now.
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Post by toasterboy on Nov 24, 2010 13:42:08 GMT -4
I just wish Bolo had been released on cardstock. I'm a technology guy all the way and I love when it's used, but I've very traditional when it comes to this game. I know I can print it out, but I'd prefer to have it on cardstock from FG. Also the art doesn't work for me. That's not a knock on the art, it's fantastic and world's better than ANYTHING I could ever do, but it doesn't match the other two Mongol cards. I know it's different artists, but at least the 'style' could have been copied to make them fit since they are all related to each other.
I'm assuming this is how Luscious Johnny V will arrive and I'll be bummed. I'd much rather pay $3, even $4 to get a card of him from FG. Oh well. We can't have it all.
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Post by kingwiththeax on Nov 24, 2010 15:15:03 GMT -4
Something I really don't get either. Every other business when their costs go up, they pass the costs on to the customer. You throw out a poll to have the customers decide who should be in the next LOW 10 set, and you get a record number of voters. What do they do? Decide to cut the number of wrestlers in the set down to 10. And lately you can't buy the LE guys separate anyways, so why not just call them part of the set???
While I am at it, why don't they put a bio in the handbook for the LE guys they release at the same time as the sets? If I am a customer that only buys the core set, and I see a bio of lets say Dick Hutton in the manual, and I didn't purchase him because I didn't know who he was or didnt have a use for him, I could read the manual and say hey that guy is pretty cool, and I have an idea for him and will order him. (I order all the LOW/LOTF stuff so it doesn't really apply to me.)
Lately at least, don't remember the past too much, ordering the "package deal" doesn't save you any money anyways. It just saves you the pain of the ass of clicking on everything individually in the store.
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Post by wildfire on Nov 24, 2010 21:56:05 GMT -4
That's why I'm happy with quality bootlegs. I know it's a business and all, but considering how much of the work that's done on the sets is done by fans on a voluntary basis, it seems kinda wrong to be gouge an already very small fan base.
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Post by lwffantrav on Nov 24, 2010 22:11:07 GMT -4
Something I really don't get either. Every other business when their costs go up, they pass the costs on to the customer. You throw out a poll to have the customers decide who should be in the next LOW 10 set, and you get a record number of voters. What do they do? Decide to cut the number of wrestlers in the set down to 10. And lately you can't buy the LE guys separate anyways, so why not just call them part of the set??? Lately at least, don't remember the past too much, ordering the "package deal" doesn't save you any money anyways. It just saves you the pain of the ass of clicking on everything individually in the store. Really agree. If you can't order them seperate, they aren't LE/SE cards. And agree, if you aren't saving at least a $1...it's not a package deal. That's definitely my biggest gripe of Filsinger Games (to go along with my many praises)
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Post by wildfire on Nov 24, 2010 22:24:49 GMT -4
I suppose they could be actual LIMITED edition cards.. like only the 1st X number of people who order them can get them... they've never before run out of anything LoW, despite calling some of the cards limited editions, but maybe that's the thing.
If it is, though, it's not clear.
I really would really prefer a bit more honesty in pricing and just call it a 14 card set for $20, or whatever.
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Post by toasterboy on Nov 24, 2010 22:34:49 GMT -4
To be fair, this current offer doesn't mention the word 'deal' anywhere. The last one does say 'Giant Deal' but this new one doesn't say anything about saving money. Would be a nice nod to loyal purchasers if pre-orders got a discount. Like how the switch to color GWF cards had a limited time discount.
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Post by lwffantrav on Nov 24, 2010 22:41:15 GMT -4
To be fair, this current offer doesn't mention the word 'deal' anywhere. The last one does say 'Giant Deal' but this new one doesn't say anything about saving money. Would be a nice nod to loyal purchasers if pre-orders got a discount. Like how the switch to color GWF cards had a limited time discount. I think one of the complaints (gripes), and I hope I get this right from others I talk with...They went down to 10 cards due to costs (whic I have no issue with), but make you buy the LE/SE cards, even though they aren't "technically" part of the set... From what I've heard, unless its changed, you can't make those purchases seperate right now. I think that's the main problem.
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Post by toasterboy on Nov 25, 2010 0:13:48 GMT -4
Mark- I saw your post before you deleted it (I assume you deleted it and it wasn't deleted by someone else). I just hope you understand that I wasn't knocking your artwork. You are a talented artist and I've always thought that. I was just commenting that I thought it should have matched more with the other two in style (not that Straight's art is necessarily something to aspire to). I look forward to the future releases.
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Post by MT on Nov 25, 2010 6:11:07 GMT -4
No, I deleted it because I didn't think it came out right. It was not easy trying to figure out how to go about drawing a character with only three blurry reference pics available (and he looks different in all three: different gear, eyebrows, 'stache). I have no idea which was the "definitive" look for Bolo. I didn't want to just copy an old promo photo, but nothing I came up with was quite what I wanted, either. My first instinct was to make it in line with the other two, but I decided to try something else instead. Point taken and in the future I'll try to be more compatible with other team members if I do a drawing of a guy with an existing partner in the game. Like I wrote before, it's an evolving project.
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Post by jasonjaconetti on Nov 25, 2010 7:35:28 GMT -4
I thought the artwork was freaking cool! I am pretty easy going on artwork, b/c I know artist work in their own style, just as long as the person drawing the piece is not taking insane liberties (ex: If you were to draw JYD as a fat, white woman - I would have an issue there!). The artwork nice and clean (which is always a plus) and considering I have never actually seen Bolo Mongol wrestle, the image in my head is very clear when I am thinking about how a match with him would unfold. Good job and thank you for adding another cool card to this game that we all love.
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