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Post by MT on Jan 30, 2011 18:20:59 GMT -4
[So it's not original, but it does fit the scheme of what Tom Filsinger has done with the GWF in the past. Also, it's four cards out of over 90, so I think the negative of that for people who would consider it as such, would be overwhelmed by the other 86 or so cards. Which means, eh, I wasn't buying it anyways, so can't worry about what others spend their $30 on. Good for them. Exactly. Also, unless I'm off the mark, it looks like a way to try to include all of the Filsinger Games fans on this. They will probably describe Cloneworld in such a way that it will have it's own group populated with clones of anyone you can think of, which would give the "GWFZ universe" a place to plug in a legends fed if someone so desired. They've already got links to aCe, POW, and the GWF proper, so bridging the gap and getting LOW and LOTF (with the Quackenbush card) brings them all under one roof, so to speak.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jan 30, 2011 18:28:16 GMT -4
I'm honestly sad to see the GWFZ go. We're going to be just stuck with the GWF and maybe the POW here and there. I love the MMA direction for POW but the GWF has just been so miss for me minus 2125.
I'm not even that excited for the aCe free agents pack and I love the aCe.
Honestly, the GWFZ has been about it for me as far as a real quality COTG product that I look forward to every time it comes out. You'd get a set and then Swarm would release a smaller set of updates and new characters mid-year. It felt like he was always giving you a new guy or two to throw in there between sets. The GWFZ always seemed to be fresh and always changing it up to stay fresh. No feuds being drug out forever.
I couldn't be happier having a character in there. He didn't win in the poll against the Titans but I have Chuck's art as the background on my computer and phone. It honestly makes me happy every time I look at him.
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Post by MT on Jan 30, 2011 18:35:27 GMT -4
I never followed CPC, but changing it to POW and making it MMA based guaranteed that I never would. I'm pretty happy to be getting the aCe free agent pack; the two new characters and the 20-page update on aCe is worth it to me. On top of that, it's the first ever official cardstock release of Pendragon.
I'm actually on the fence right now about whether or not I'll be getting this last GWFZ release. Honestly, the "not Hogan", "not Savage", and Quackenbush cards are the main draws leaning me towards a maybe right now. Don't get me wrong, I have been impressed with several of the characters I've seen in teasers, but I've just never played the GWFZ. I bought the last few releases just out of support for the product and the guys who put the time and effort into it. The Big Superstar and Freak Out cards could easily fit into my LOW as Hogan and Savage ,though.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jan 30, 2011 18:48:07 GMT -4
I would say get it. I view this set as a celebration of promoters as much as a finale for the GWFZ.
The MMA game is really fun but I can see why it turns people off. I love doing the MMA but I just don't seem to get the time for it on a consistent basis. My GWFZ character actually came out of playing so much POW around the time that I created him. The problem with CPC/POW is I think it's on it's last legs. I think Mark wants to keep it going but I think the weight of it all is going to wear him down and it'll be done after a few more sets.
It's sad that in the span of a few years we went from 4 viable COTG feds to just the GWF.
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Post by executioner on Jan 30, 2011 20:11:02 GMT -4
I actually enjoy POW MMA. No desire to roll POW wrestling. To me, the MMA side is fun, edgy and creative. No silly drama, no one ruining a character by using it as his screen name. Just straight up action.
Now I wish I could say the same about GWF, but I can't. There are simply some silly characters in there. Not even comic silly, just plain sad silly.
Never tried aCe, because the whole thing just didn't interest me.
Z is fine for those that want it. I won't bash them. As long as people are happy--cool. There is no draw for me, both as a card and due to the person pushing it.
For me the most creative thing FG has done is LOW and LOTF. No 50 page book to do the thinking for you. You have to create your own stories and do your own booking. Now if you want to run a WWE knock off, fine, but not my thing.
I wish Z the best, but the life, death and legacy of it means nothing to me.
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Post by MT on Jan 30, 2011 20:22:35 GMT -4
See, I don't like MMA so I can't get into POW. I think I'd be more interested if he'd have turned it into a boxing fed (and that's saying something). I enjoy wild characters and storylines. I COULD do without people using character names as screen names on message boards.
Just out of curiosity, in your opinion who is a sad/silly character in the current GWF? What about aCe does not appeal to you (and, as mom used to say about broccoli, how can you know if you haven't tried)? Not being antagonistic, just curious so I can get a broader idea of what other people like and don't like.
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Post by executioner on Jan 30, 2011 20:28:28 GMT -4
See, I don't like MMA so I can't get into POW. I think I'd be more interested if he'd have turned it into a boxing fed (and that's saying something). I enjoy wild characters and storylines. I COULD do without people using character names as screen names on message boards. Just out of curiosity, in your opinion who is a sad/silly character in the current GWF? What about aCe does not appeal to you (and, as mom used to say about broccoli, how can you know if you haven't tried)? Not being antagonistic, just curious so I can get a broader idea of what other people like and don't like. I know you were not taking a shot at me, but the screen name the Executioner is based on a book series by the same name that has been out since late 60's. I rarely watch current wrestling, finding UFC and WEC VASTLY more interesting and entertaining. I would watch a Chuck Liddell fight over current WWE match anytime. That's just me. I have seen the entire color set. Some dude in a cuddly bear outfit or some damn thing for one. SERIOUSLY? And frankly, there is no big draw. Just guys. Been that way for sometime. As far as aCE, I actually seen older sets and rolled the cards at Con. The cards are fine, the idea of a "sci-fi battle for Centra" is a bit much to stomach. The Olympics don't settle differences, why the blue heck should wrestling and zombies and what not. I am sure it is entertaining and have talked to hardcore aCe fans about it. Just not my thing.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jan 30, 2011 20:29:08 GMT -4
Nitro and Retribution top the charts of crap in the GWF currently.
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Post by MT on Jan 30, 2011 20:42:14 GMT -4
Executioner,
That's Hector The Holy Brown Bear and the costume is part of a psychological tactic he's employing against Sly Drury. This was the same guy who was several other characters in the past few editions. That's actually my favorite guy going right now because it's so off the wall. I like the off the wall stuff.
Osk wrapped up the Battle For Centra a few editions ago and turned it into "All Centra Entertainment" which was more of a traditional wrestling group. However, he just (apparently) ended the whole thing with the latest 4-card expansion set. Again, I enjoy the stuff that pushes the boundaries of convention, but I can see how someone who likes more traditional fighting wouldn't dig that sort of project.
maddog, Retribution is very one note. Those guys who only exist for revenge can, by definition, only have a limited shelf life. He's probably surpassed his. Unless he gets a payoff or change in direction with the next set he does need to go. Nitro is just kind of there. If you can get past the fact that he was patterned after a guy on a reality show that only lasted one season then he has some potential as his own character. I'd have to say Scimitar is the most boring and underdeveloped guy going right now. Silly in that he's a guy names Scimitar, holding throwing knives, with a "ninja" move in his arsenal. He makes no sense!
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Post by MT on Jan 30, 2011 20:43:32 GMT -4
See, I don't like MMA so I can't get into POW. I think I'd be more interested if he'd have turned it into a boxing fed (and that's saying something). I enjoy wild characters and storylines. I COULD do without people using character names as screen names on message boards. Just out of curiosity, in your opinion who is a sad/silly character in the current GWF? What about aCe does not appeal to you (and, as mom used to say about broccoli, how can you know if you haven't tried)? Not being antagonistic, just curious so I can get a broader idea of what other people like and don't like. I know you were not taking a shot at me, but the screen name the Executioner is based on a book series by the same name that has been out since late 60's. Aw no, I wasn't even thinking about that. It's the Mack Bolin series, right? You know what I meant.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jan 30, 2011 20:45:13 GMT -4
Scimitar is what he is... a jobber.
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Post by executioner on Jan 30, 2011 20:47:46 GMT -4
I know you were not taking a shot at me, but the screen name the Executioner is based on a book series by the same name that has been out since late 60's. Aw no, I wasn't even thinking about that. It's the Mack Bolin series, right? You know what I meant. I know what you meant and didn't think you were taking a shot at me. Never did. Yes, the Mack Bolan series. Still kicking butt. Now a monthly 180 pages of action packed escapism.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jan 30, 2011 20:54:25 GMT -4
Current GWF characters I think need to take a hike:
Shann-Ra - what's the point since Kill Prey left? She's only there because there literally hasn't been a new woman in the division in 2 or 3 sets.
Retribution - I want the Vertigo treatment, big time!
American Guy - He's just there, he needs updated or he needs to go.
Nitro - lame.
Anivar - I've never liked him. He bores me to tears and while the new card is better than his first two but he's still boring.
Oracle - lame. The whole prophecy thing got old after 3 matches.
The Ultimate Fighters - don't care much for the cards and feel they are severely lacking in even basic personalities.
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Post by MT on Jan 30, 2011 21:13:08 GMT -4
Oracle - lame. The whole prophecy thing got old after 3 matches. Oracle's game mechanic became obsolete after one edition when his team split up in the Infinity Challenge. That needs to be addressed this next set, too. Either Tricks puts together a new team or there will be some errata to deal with it.
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Post by lwffantrav on Jan 30, 2011 21:25:49 GMT -4
I actually enjoy POW MMA. No desire to roll POW wrestling. To me, the MMA side is fun, edgy and creative. No silly drama, no one ruining a character by using it as his screen name. Just straight up action. While I'm in Early Classics and a long way away...I admit it'll be hard to use some of the GWF characters when I get there. I may go my own storylines then and just throw a few out.
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