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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 9, 2011 9:13:19 GMT -4
I mean really?
I understand why the regular color cards cost $19 now. The cards are far superior and they increased the price accordingly. But nothing has changed online. In fact, it looks really stupid when 2126 costs $19 and right next to it in the store you can get Megatournament for $24.
Nothing fucking changed with Online. I'm not getting anything nicer out of it so why is the price any different. 2125 was $13 last year until they changed it for this year.
I just think it's fucking ridiculous. How do they expect Online to actually succeed when they do this stuff?
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Post by MT on Jul 9, 2011 14:05:51 GMT -4
That's kind of odd: when I purchased it last night around 11PM CST it was $13. Am I to believe it actually went up in price $6 within a day? I just looked at the online store and it looks like someone decided overnight to up the price of ALL COTGonline single editions to $19.
There's no way I'd pay $19 for a single online game edition. The only reason I buy them is because I can start playing about a week earlier when they release the weekend of G-Con and don't ship until several days later. Now I'll just wait to get the print versions. That's just too steep a price for me to pay for a digital edition.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 9, 2011 16:28:50 GMT -4
Yeah. I refuse to pay that for it Online. That is a ridiculous price for a single edition. Where's the upgrade to justify that price point? I'm really pissed off about this. I've been supporting the Online service since it started and I've understood why they've done things in the past but this feels like a total slap in the face.
I don't even want to order the card version of 2126 and Chikara because I feel so slighted by this. It's just really upsetting and disappointing. I wasn't excited about 2126 but I woke up this morning and I thought "oh 2126 will be Online, I'll go buy it." Signed on and my jaw about hit the floor. So much for that impulse purchase.
I really hope there was some mistake because this will kill Online. No one is going to pay that for a digital edition.
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Post by Havoc on Jul 9, 2011 17:27:06 GMT -4
While I agree with you, I suspect you'd already have gotten flamed by an anonymous guest about bitching about $6 if G-con wasn't in progress. That's just the warm and fuzzy reception you get when having something critical to say about this product.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 9, 2011 17:31:35 GMT -4
Any guest that has a problem with that bitch can honestly bite my ass and suck my dick. My money is just as good as their money and Filsinger lost out on $13 from me and probably a lot of other people today.
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Post by todd on Jul 9, 2011 18:38:16 GMT -4
I remember Tom saying when he got rid of the yearly online subscription fee the price of the online sets was going to be the same as the printed ones. At the time I think the online sets were around 8 dollars ? This was the case for the next year or two until last year when the online set remained at 13 dollars while the printed one went for around 60. That was a great deal especially if you were a new player. I always thought online was the better deal when you consider that the online sets include every wrestler on the current roster( including special edition cards) and there's no need to buy other sets to get the wrestlers you need to play. I personally don't see the big deal about an additional six dollars a year. 19 dollars a year is still a lot more affordable than other video or online sim games like World Of Warcraft, The Sims, and Madden. As far as wrestling games go I still think it's the best around. I don't mean to offend anyone it's just my opinion
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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 9, 2011 18:45:11 GMT -4
I disagree mostly because there is no value to that extra $6. When the card price increased, it made complete sense. You were getting a more better product for that extra $6. That was part of the point to why the Online game edition to 2125 was $13 until this morning. The previous increase to the prices was because they did away with the monthly subscription fee.
If there was a noticeable change, I would be okay with $19. But as it stands, I really have to really think about purchasing the new sets Online. I would've been perfectly happy buying both previously but now, I might not even buy the cards until a couple of months from now.
It also really pisses me off that if I had stayed up an extra hour last night, I probably could've snagged it for $13. That's some bullshit right there if you ask me.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 9, 2011 18:50:46 GMT -4
This is the exact same shit when Sony and Microsoft want you to pay retail price for a download version of a game. You have to pay for the hosting, you're essentially getting free money for the Online version because there was no production cost outside of the initial design. You can't sell it for a little cheaper than the print copy that had extra costs associated with it?
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Post by MT on Jul 9, 2011 19:14:54 GMT -4
Todd, we've all got a sort of tipping point when it comes to perceived value for entertainment or discretionary purchases like this. When the price begins to near $20 to get the same product in print or digital, then in my mind it's a "one or the other" decision instead of both. To me it seems to become wasteful because, as I've stated before, the only reason I buy the online version is because I can get it instantly when they release it G-Con weekend instead of waiting for the next week when the print version ships.
To put it into perspective, I'm a David Bowie fan. Within the last few months I have bought three entire albums via digitial download on Amazon. They cost $5 each, or a total of $15. To purchase them in "hard copy" form on CD would run about $10-15 a piece, for a total of $30-45. Those were impulse buys. If I would have had to pay the same price for the digital version as the CD I'd have passed.
It's Tom Filsinger's business and he can charge whatever he pleases. I hope he has 25 more years of success. However, at this price point I'm going to drop the online purchase next year and just wait the extra week or so for the print version.
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Post by lwffantrav on Jul 9, 2011 19:35:22 GMT -4
Before anyone jumps the gun, it could be some technical glitch they aren't noticing due to the convention. Wait it out til late Sunday or Monday
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Post by MT on Jul 9, 2011 19:40:17 GMT -4
Before anyone jumps the gun, it could be some technical glitch they aren't noticing due to the convention. Wait it out til late Sunday or Monday It's pretty safe to say it's a price change. I, and several others, bought 2126 online at 11PM last night for $13. At that time all of the digital editions were $13. Overnight someone has changed the price of 2125 and 2126 to $19. I understand it was Tom Filsinger's plan to charge the same amount for online editions as their print counterparts in the past and apparently he has decided to raise the price of the newer digital editions to keep this practice in effect. The higher print costs make perfect sense since the product was so vastly upgraded by the colorization and higher quality printing. The same cannot be said for digital, where it's the exact same product only $6 higher. Previously the lure was that, even though online was the same price, it had more "polish" being in color and the convenience was worth paying the same price as the print version. ONCE AGAIN, it's his business and I am only stating my own thoughts on the matter, not rallying anyone to follow suit.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 9, 2011 19:45:27 GMT -4
Before anyone jumps the gun, it could be some technical glitch they aren't noticing due to the convention. Wait it out til late Sunday or Monday I'm hoping it's a mistake but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by lwffantrav on Jul 9, 2011 20:11:50 GMT -4
But I agree though that the digital copy should be cheaper than a printed. That doesn't make alot of sense
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Post by Avarice on Jul 9, 2011 23:59:18 GMT -4
I got mine for $13 as well last night...maybe if enough people let themselves be heard to Tom, it'll change...I think something similar happened with the handbooks a couple editions back. He was planning on going digital or PDF with them, but enough people voiced their concerns that he brought them back...just a suggestion here and I agree with all points on this.
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Post by wildfire on Jul 10, 2011 0:05:36 GMT -4
$19 for online is pretty silly, I agree. but if you look at the history of online, it's been pretty much used by FG as a way to squeeze money out of 'regular' customers from the beginning.
There hasn't been an improvement for, what, 2 years? Now they don't even have a tech guy on the payroll.
I'd imagine it's just being looked at as a way to score a bit of extra money and as a marketing point to say they're on line.
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