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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 20, 2013 13:32:10 GMT -4
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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 20, 2013 15:44:28 GMT -4
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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 27, 2013 12:49:50 GMT -4
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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 29, 2013 17:09:57 GMT -4
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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 31, 2013 19:07:08 GMT -4
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Post by maddog1981 on Aug 1, 2013 18:09:11 GMT -4
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Post by maddog1981 on Aug 5, 2013 20:08:22 GMT -4
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Post by maddog1981 on Aug 12, 2013 19:31:17 GMT -4
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Post by MT on Aug 13, 2013 10:41:31 GMT -4
Fleer '90. Man, remember when everyone was going crazy trying to pull a Jeff George Fleer rookie card? Now no one would even hesitate to put it in the mail for an autograph because you could replace it for about a buck.
Serious respect for the Kevin "Butthead" Butler auto.
EDIT: Just checked ebay and there's a PSA 10 George rookie with a day left. Bid right now is 99 CENTS!
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Post by maddog1981 on Aug 13, 2013 18:23:15 GMT -4
I remember the Bo Jackson cards were always a big deal. Funny thing is, I was at the State Fair a few weeks ago and one of the sellers was selling unopened boxes of cards from the early 90s for $5 a pop.
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Post by MT on Aug 15, 2013 1:22:14 GMT -4
I think Bo was bigger his first couple years as a pro, and in baseball generally(given variance for regional favorites, of course). It felt like he'd cooled off a lot for football collectors by '90. In 1990 second year cards for Barry Sanders and Aikman seemed to me like the two non-rookies who were the biggest deal.
That late 1989-early 90s glut destroyed the market to the point that, as you noted, besides '89 Score those formerly sought after boxes and packs are now virtually worthless.
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Post by maddog1981 on Aug 15, 2013 12:07:16 GMT -4
It's interesting that the comic market and trading card market killed themselves in the exact same way. It's kind of amazing to think that you can't get baseball cards anywhere and everywhere these days.
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Post by MT on Aug 16, 2013 6:23:51 GMT -4
I partially blame Beckett and Wizard. Once people started treating these things like the stock market it was all over. Then there was the over production and the focus on ridiculously high end (and gaudily designed) product with diecut and foil (both in comics and cards). It's almost like one industry fed off the other and took the exact same path to near destruction. It was vital to have those entry level card packs and comics in the local grocery and gas stations to get new buyers and collectors hooked (i.e.; kids). When the direct market seized the virtual monopoly on distribution it made that impossible. It's also hard to hook new buyers when a pack costs five bucks and comics are $3-4 apiece.
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Post by maddog1981 on Aug 16, 2013 7:33:24 GMT -4
Score has stayed reasonable at $2 a pack. I think the Heritage cards are worth a little more. But Upper Deck is ridiculous with $3 for a regular pack but then they were always expensive.
What I see a lot of is the fat packs and boxes so they can get you for $5-20 to get anything.
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Post by wildfire on Aug 19, 2013 10:39:38 GMT -4
I think Bo was bigger his first couple years as a pro, and in baseball generally(given variance for regional favorites, of course). It felt like he'd cooled off a lot for football collectors by '90. In 1990 second year cards for Barry Sanders and Aikman seemed to me like the two non-rookies who were the biggest deal. That late 1989-early 90s glut destroyed the market to the point that, as you noted, besides '89 Score those formerly sought after boxes and packs are now virtually worthless. Yeah, really the whole 80s and 90s are worth crap now... a couple of the HoF rookies are worth a bit (Boggs, Henderson, Puckett), but nothing else.. and ONLY the Topps ones. The industry has just totally changed... it's all about the special cards now, autos and game used crap that is horrendously overpriced... just the regular card sets? a pittance. Heck, I bet all those guys spending 100s on Strasburg rookies are kicking themselves right now.
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