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Post by maddog1981 on Nov 20, 2013 12:45:54 GMT -4
I'm disappointed in the set overall. I don't have a problem with most of the guys included. They were limited in who they can use and I get that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 17:58:19 GMT -4
A Jerry Lynn ROH card would have been awesome in this set.
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Post by maddog1981 on Nov 20, 2013 19:55:08 GMT -4
We need a Cheeseburger card far before we need another Lynn card.
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Post by maddog1981 on Nov 23, 2013 11:57:04 GMT -4
On second thought, I think I'm being unfair to this set in my disappointment.
Necro, Hero and Aries needed color cards in the worst way possible. Black as well.
I think I'm just a little jaded that Claudio and Delirious are getting their 5th cards for this set.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 0:30:17 GMT -4
I agree that it would have been nice to see some new faces rather than another Claudio and Delirious. But I am still really stoked for this set. I can't wait to bring Aries into my ROH fed!
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Post by MT on Nov 29, 2013 5:50:29 GMT -4
To be fair, I've pushed for red poison Delirious on the forums for a while now. Maybe I get partial blame for that, or maybe it's the fact that Delirious is a VIP in ROH and it's good to keep him happy! Chikara Claudio was fine by me, but ROH fans need to be catered to as well and they didn't have a Claudio card yet. There ARE some ROH fans who just buy the cards from the ROH web store, I'm sure. They'd be wondering why there was a Hero card and no Caludio. It almost had to be a both or neither situation.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 15:47:25 GMT -4
To be fair, I've pushed for red poison Delirious on the forums for a while now. Maybe I get partial blame for that, or maybe it's the fact that Delirious is a VIP in ROH and it's good to keep him happy! Chikara Claudio was fine by me, but ROH fans need to be catered to as well and they didn't have a Claudio card yet. There ARE some ROH fans who just buy the cards from the ROH web store, I'm sure. They'd be wondering why there was a Hero card and no Caludio. It almost had to be a both or neither situation. You're right Mark. I take for granted and forget that not everyone would buy every wrestling set out. And it makes perfect sense to have versions of Claudio and Delirious in, especially since they are very much Legends of ROH. I am really looking forward to the set and it will be awesome to have some Legendary blood in my ROH fed.
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Post by MT on Nov 29, 2013 21:01:47 GMT -4
If I'd have had my preference I'd honestly have liked to see cards for the last reaming ROH contract guys without cards (Silas Young and Adam Page) and a series of updates for Ciampa, Cole, O'Reilly, and either Elgin or a singles Jay Briscoe card. However, I have no doubt the Legends Of Honor will have wider appeal. That Aries card art is really nice, and Chris Hero timing couldn't be better since he's suddenly very relevant again and could even wind up in ROH again sometime down the road.
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Post by maddog1981 on Nov 29, 2013 21:03:22 GMT -4
Cole needs an update badly. I think Elgin is still okay as he is though.
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Post by MT on Nov 29, 2013 21:10:21 GMT -4
Cole needs an update badly. I think Elgin is still okay as he is though. There are a few minor changes I'd make to Elgin to reflect his updated offense and probably lower his pin by 1. But yes, without question Cole needs the main event level card now. For Ciampa I'd make his pw -1, probably have to lower the agility to +1 since the knee surgery, and he's added a lot of new moves to his offense since coming back. O'Reilly needs a lower pin and some tag team offense. The opposite for Jay, who needs to lose the tag moves and get a card to reflect his current persona and position in ROH.
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Post by maddog1981 on Nov 29, 2013 23:27:42 GMT -4
The CZW set did give us the Irish Airbourne who are RoH alumni. They'll be a great addition to the bottom half of the tag team division. Some really good matchups out there like Airbourne/C&C and Airborune/Bucks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 23:33:41 GMT -4
They're known as OI4K (on most indies at least) now, and it's "Irish Airborne".
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Post by tax on Nov 29, 2013 23:59:27 GMT -4
The one downside of the Indy packs (at least vs LOW) is that guys quickly change depending whose getting pushed and what angles they're running. It's going to be difficult or guys will just keep getting cards over and over.
Despite that, I'd love a singles Jay Briscoe card. Perhaps an Adam Cole update as well. Elgin on the other hand probably not anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 0:03:27 GMT -4
Cole will get an update. There's really no point to a singles card for Jay. The one we have is right on the money.
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Post by maddog1981 on Nov 30, 2013 0:24:06 GMT -4
I prefer the old name for them.
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