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Post by maddog1981 on Dec 2, 2013 7:42:50 GMT -4
He just put DB over at Summerslam clean and creative completely fucked him over in the aftermath. He also put CM Punk over at almost every turn from 2011-2012.
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Post by MT on Dec 2, 2013 8:40:59 GMT -4
A simple win or loss just isn't enough to "make" a star. A win is important, but look at all the guys Ric Flair helped make by treating them as a threat beforehand and beating them the right way. It's how the guy is presented going into the match and what happens after. How did Bryan earn the match? Cena "gifted" it to him. He essentially said "fans, who do you want to see? (fans chant "yes") Daniel Bryan? Well okay, that's who I'll face at SummerSlam." THAT was the "build"! That is a WWE "creative" disaster of course, and people didn't "buy the attraction" as Vince put it to investors because they KNEW what was going to happen in advance: Bryan wins and Orton sweeps right in to beat him and return us to the Cena/Orton/Triple H status quo.
Which is how it continues to go. The invulnerable hero doesn't work, and Cena has never learned to add even a single nuance of vulnerability to his character. Superman comics, the guy Cena most often gets compared to, were literally on the verge of being cancelled by DC in the mid-80s because no one cared anymore after years of seeing him overcome everything that was thrown at him with hardly a scratch. That's why when John Byrne rebooted Supreman in the 80s he gave him new vulnerabilities to magic, and when Grant Morrison did it a few years ago he went even further with it.
Bottom line, WWE is in a creative funk at the least because they're not willing to do the simple storytelling things to make things work, and Cena can't figure out that people tire of Superman in jorts. Hey, the man had major surgery and didn't even stay gone long enough for people to miss him. A smart wrestler would have been gone about two months to make people miss him and come back fresh; instead he rushed back ASAP, perhaps in fear that someone else may be allowed to have some spotlight and get over without him doing the subtle (and not so subtle) things he does in promos to kick them back down the ladder.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 23:19:36 GMT -4
Well, he was gone for two months.
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Post by MT on Dec 6, 2013 6:43:55 GMT -4
Well, he was gone for two months. That was meant to read "gone for more than about two months". This is why you see the "edit" note at the bottom of so many of my posts. Proof reading is not my strong point.
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Post by MT on Dec 7, 2013 7:40:07 GMT -4
Recent WWE house show result:
8. John Cena beat Damien Sandow and Alberto Del Rio in a handicap match in 13:10. Ten minutes of promos and intros before the match started with a one minute promo in the middle. Both wore their respective shirts to the ring, swapped shirts with each other, and wore them half the match. No "Cena Sucks" chants.
I suppose this is a warm-up for this match on RAW to make Cena look----(wait for it) superhuman right before Bryan and Punk probably lose handicap matches at the next PPV. You know, because beating mere mortals like the former world champ and the Money In The Bank winner one-on-one is just not a challenge for Superm----Cena. THIS is how you build strong heels! Or wait, no it is very much NOT how it's done. It IS why there are none in the WWE right now.
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