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Post by maddog1981 on Jun 2, 2015 18:35:25 GMT -4
Not to speak for him but most people that snowflake go by feel. Once you've watched hundreds of matches you can feel the difference between **3/4 and ***.
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Post by Weltschmerz on Jun 2, 2015 19:11:53 GMT -4
Not to speak for him but most people that snowflake go by feel. Once you've watched hundreds of matches you can feel the difference between **3/4 and ***. I've probably watched thousands of matches, and I routinely rate things much higher, and couldn't distinguish to the quarter-star level. If it's just going by feel, that will be harder for me to understand. Maybe I'm just less discriminating than some. In the end, it doesn't matter. Everyone likes what he likes. I'm just curious.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 20:41:08 GMT -4
Snowflake Chamber Tag Title Chamber: *3/4 Bella/Naomi/Paige: * Owens/Cena: **** Bo/Neville: **1/2 IC Title Chamber: ** Ambrose/Rollins: opted out of this to watch Goldberg squashes Rough year for major WWE shows though I will say in front of a better crowd this wouldn't have been near as hard to watch. So, okay, I disagree with your snowflaking again, but I get that's a subjective thing. I obviously enjoyed the show way more than you did, that's cool. But I want to try to understand where you are coming from. How do you set your snowflakes for a match? What's the difference between a *3/4 match and a ** match? Do you start at zero and add, or do you start at five and subtract? I generally use the Meltzer scale DUD: terrible match *-*3/4: bad match **-**3/4: average to good match ***-***3/4: very good match ****-****1/2: great match ****3/4: match of the year candidate *****: all time classic
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 20:42:10 GMT -4
I mean, I could just use the adjectives like 'terrible' and 'bad' and 'good' in place of the snowflake ratings. Just never really saw any reason to because I thought the star ratings were the accepted way of rating matches..
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Post by Weltschmerz on Jun 2, 2015 21:00:59 GMT -4
I see... So, you basically categorize the match as a DUD, bad, fair or whatever, and then you have a little room to adjust by quarter-stars. Makes more sense now. Thank you.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jun 2, 2015 22:20:57 GMT -4
The 3/4 is usually my cop out rating. That was probably *** but I don't feel comfortable with that so **3/4 instead.
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Post by wildfire on Jun 2, 2015 22:34:46 GMT -4
I'd love to see Owens just flat out refuse to fight Cena again. He beat him. He made his statement. Why would he fight him again? That's just my thoughts on what should happen next. I agree 100% I was really rooting for that to happen. The semi-meta attack on internet smarks we got was good, but I think the character would have been better served refusing the match.
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Post by wildfire on Jun 2, 2015 22:38:05 GMT -4
Snowflake Chamber Tag Title Chamber: *3/4 Bella/Naomi/Paige: * Owens/Cena: **** Bo/Neville: **1/2 IC Title Chamber: ** Ambrose/Rollins: opted out of this to watch Goldberg squashes Rough year for major WWE shows though I will say in front of a better crowd this wouldn't have been near as hard to watch. Wow, I really enjoyed the Tag Team Chamber match... Caesaro was awesome, the Ascension finally looked decent, and the made the Prime Time Players contenders again... overall very effective way to get the tag division fired up, if they stick with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 23:40:29 GMT -4
Snowflake Chamber Tag Title Chamber: *3/4 Bella/Naomi/Paige: * Owens/Cena: **** Bo/Neville: **1/2 IC Title Chamber: ** Ambrose/Rollins: opted out of this to watch Goldberg squashes Rough year for major WWE shows though I will say in front of a better crowd this wouldn't have been near as hard to watch. Wow, I really enjoyed the Tag Team Chamber match... Caesaro was awesome, the Ascension finally looked decent, and the made the Prime Time Players contenders again... overall very effective way to get the tag division fired up, if they stick with it. I just wasn't into the match at all, honestly. The way it was laid out was a big problem for me and it was pretty telling of how WWE views that division. The Ascension, who have been total geeks on the main roster to this point, beat the other two geek tag teams before being eliminated by, of all teams, the Prime Time Players (thus proving that The Ascension are mega geeks 4 life). The PTP going to the end didn't really bug me as much as it probably should have because by that point I figured they'd at least get that far and they did. Really scratched my head at the whole layout of the match and I didn't think the actual work outside of Cesaro being Cesaro was anything particularly great. It was a cool concept, a tag team chamber, just not executed particularly well IMO.
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