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Post by ljacone on Dec 21, 2010 9:57:39 GMT -4
Ok, so Taz used it, but you know what I mean. Punk also was not a heel or face announcer, he was backing who he liked. It was a nice change of pace from the Cole and Lawler banter. I was actually going to bring up the mentions on iMPACT, was trying to separate the recent TNA I've watched from the old TNA DVDs I've been watching as of late. I like Punk as a commentator for the reason you mentioned. He's neither face nor heel, he merely backs who he likes, sort of like Sean Mooney in a way, except Punk's not terrible. I know jasonjaconetti, I just wanted to screw with you and the point you were making. But yeah. I have heard Punk call matches on Superstars and I like him quite a bit. He works very well in the two man booth with Scott Sanders (I think his name is Scott Sanders), who calls him "Mr. Punk." Ironically, Punk does remind me of Taz in the ways we have mentioned in this thread: he knows the proper names of holds, and he calls it according to the people he likes rather than straight heel or face. Taz, for instance, will always put over GenMe no matter what. Taz does not have the verbal skills that Punk does, though, as he trips himself up at least a couple of times a broadcast. JBL, while playing a heel announcer, had tendencies to do the same sort of stuff as far as rooting interest. Case in point: JBL, who has long thought highly of Matt Hardy, always put Matt Hardy over on SD! even though Matt was a babyface. Same with The Undertaker. On the flipside, he would always dump on The Miz, and when MVP first was coming in, he tore into him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2010 10:03:58 GMT -4
I was actually going to bring up the mentions on iMPACT, was trying to separate the recent TNA I've watched from the old TNA DVDs I've been watching as of late. I like Punk as a commentator for the reason you mentioned. He's neither face nor heel, he merely backs who he likes, sort of like Sean Mooney in a way, except Punk's not terrible. I know jasonjaconetti, I just wanted to screw with you and the point you were making. But yeah. I have heard Punk call matches on Superstars and I like him quite a bit. He works very well in the two man booth with Scott Sanders (I think his name is Scott Sanders), who calls him "Mr. Punk." Ironically, Punk does remind me of Taz in the ways we have mentioned in this thread: he knows the proper names of holds, and he calls it according to the people he likes rather than straight heel or face. Taz, for instance, will always put over GenMe no matter what. Taz does not have the verbal skills that Punk does, though, as he trips himself up at least a couple of times a broadcast. JBL, while playing a heel announcer, had tendencies to do the same sort of stuff as far as rooting interest. Case in point: JBL, who has long thought highly of Matt Hardy, always put Matt Hardy over on SD! even though Matt was a babyface. Same with The Undertaker. On the flipside, he would always dump on The Miz, and when MVP first was coming in, he tore into him. I vaguely remember JBL putting MVP over. He always emphasized the whole "Highest paid superstar in SmackDown history" thing.
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Post by ljacone on Dec 21, 2010 10:25:26 GMT -4
I vaguely remember JBL putting MVP over. He always emphasized the whole "Highest paid superstar in SmackDown history" thing. The trick was that he put over MVP before he debuted. After he had his debut match against Marty Garner, JBL started to ride him hard until the Inferno Match with Kane. Essentially saying that he overpromised and underdelivered, and that he was a "bad investment." After the Inferno Match he sided with him because MVP "stepped up."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2010 10:52:36 GMT -4
I vaguely remember JBL putting MVP over. He always emphasized the whole "Highest paid superstar in SmackDown history" thing. The trick was that he put over MVP before he debuted. After he had his debut match against Marty Garner, JBL started to ride him hard until the Inferno Match with Kane. Essentially saying that he overpromised and underdelivered, and that he was a "bad investment." After the Inferno Match he sided with him because MVP "stepped up." Ah, gotcha. My memory of late 2006 SmackDown isn't the best.
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Post by ljacone on Dec 21, 2010 11:41:52 GMT -4
Ah, gotcha. My memory of late 2006 SmackDown isn't the best. Sadly enough, mine is. *sigh*
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Post by jasonjaconetti on Dec 21, 2010 14:03:14 GMT -4
MVP deserved what he got when he debuted over-weight and sloppy. He really worked himself up and make himself into a respectable member of the roster.
Punk used to call matches in ROH too (watch some old DVDs, it is him and Dave Prazak), so he was not a virgin on the cans. Plus, Punk has always been great on the stick, he is confident in talking. Taz' problem is much the same now as it was in ECW; he was not blessed with great mic skills. He gets excited and ahead of himself sometimes.
What I am interested in seeing is how the Cena vs. Punk thing will go, now without the SES. Cena is a better wrestler than a lot of people give him credit for, but there is no way I am expecting anything like Daniel Bryan vs. CM Punk would hold.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2010 19:36:46 GMT -4
MVP deserved what he got when he debuted over-weight and sloppy. He really worked himself up and make himself into a respectable member of the roster. Punk used to call matches in ROH too (watch some old DVDs, it is him and Dave Prazak), so he was not a virgin on the cans. Plus, Punk has always been great on the stick, he is confident in talking. Taz' problem is much the same now as it was in ECW; he was not blessed with great mic skills. He gets excited and ahead of himself sometimes. What I am interested in seeing is how the Cena vs. Punk thing will go, now without the SES. Cena is a better wrestler than a lot of people give him credit for, but there is no way I am expecting anything like Daniel Bryan vs. CM Punk would hold. Punk also commentated with any number of the characters that Sapolsky played in ROH too. Ah, gotcha. My memory of late 2006 SmackDown isn't the best. Sadly enough, mine is. *sigh* I am so sorry. In its own defense though, the first like eight months of SmackDown in 2006 had some pretty rad stuff on it. Re/Orton the week of WM, the Angle/Taker No Way Out rematch, Khali/Taker Last Man Standing, I think they did Angle/Orton in June. But like, after SummerSlam everything went to hell in a handbasket.
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Post by ljacone on Dec 22, 2010 8:25:20 GMT -4
I am so sorry. In its own defense though, the first like eight months of SmackDown in 2006 had some pretty rad stuff on it. Re/Orton the week of WM, the Angle/Taker No Way Out rematch, Khali/Taker Last Man Standing, I think they did Angle/Orton in June. But like, after SummerSlam everything went to hell in a handbasket. 2006 was an odd time for me. I was finishing up my Masters degree and I was not working, so I was watching SD! pretty religiously. After I graduated I was living alone for a while, without cable, so SD! became the go-to show every single week. And 2006 was a strong year for the show. It's just weird that I remember so much of it and then 2007 and 2008 are spotty because I wasn't living alone anymore -- and thus unable to control what was watched on television!
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