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Post by tyguy on Apr 26, 2011 23:30:14 GMT -4
See I think for the most part people in the pdf set would be known. It shouldn't just be the obscure indy guy or unknown old territory wrestler. They can be someone with a bit of a name in wrestling, it's just that the poor guy is going to be waiting a long time to get a card.
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Post by wildfire on Apr 26, 2011 23:51:45 GMT -4
If there are well known guys signed that don't have cards, then absolutely... make'em!
I just was under the impression most of the guys signed were either indy guys or not big names.
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Post by MT on Apr 27, 2011 0:18:11 GMT -4
I see a few things worth discussing after a few pages of drift. First, Filsinger Games already has pdf sets availible for the GWF Classics editions that went out of print and they sell for $6; $2 less than the original price of the printed versions. Civil War 2099 and 2100 are also availible and they go for $10; $3 less than a printed set. It stands to reason that if a LOW pdf set were made availible that it would be a few dollars less than a comparable printed edition. No, I don't want to see alternate identities in a pdf set either, Ty. There are already venues for getting those. I also don't want any fictional characters. Dustin.....Blue Meanie and Kurrgan are "names" in your world but Brian "Crush" Adams isn't? Your world is slightly differnent than mine in that regard. (there, smiley guy so no arguments break out) Look at the guys who have fallen short in these "last man" polls on the official message boards if you want an idea of some of the guys who may make the cut here. There would probably be more mid-level names, territory guys who were big names for a period in a certain area but maybe not nationally known as big stars, early 20th century pioneer types, or niche guys like Kurrgan or someone who never quite fits the "theme" of a particular release.
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Post by Dustin on Apr 27, 2011 8:07:50 GMT -4
Great post, Mark. Actually, I don't know how Brian Adams got in that list. I was a big fan of him.
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Post by tax on Apr 27, 2011 9:20:40 GMT -4
The only alternate ID I'd like would be Bolo Mongol.(well any guy who's significantly different from his other card, not a guy in a mask or such)
I am in agreement that they should have some name value but not enough to get into a regular set easily. Also, it's a good place for people like Dick Whoerle (sp) and J.J. Dillon to get card releases as well.
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Post by executioner on Apr 27, 2011 9:34:20 GMT -4
The only alternate ID I'd like would be Bolo Mongol.(well any guy who's significantly different from his other card, not a guy in a mask or such) I am in agreement that they should have some name value but not enough to get into a regular set easily. Also, it's a good place for people like Dick Whoerle (sp) and J.J. Dillon to get card releases as well. I agree on Whoerle. I respectfully believe that those who consider JJ Dillon PDF worthy, and not set worthy, are really selling him short. Dillon was a top manager in his day, major back stage presence in WCW and WWF--and a pretty good wrestler in his own right (he wrestled Andre and Brian Blair for example). He is on par with any other manager in the LOW and as a wrestler is on par with more than a few already in.
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Post by wildfire on Apr 27, 2011 10:45:37 GMT -4
See, with a PDF, he could have a 'prime' wrestling card, and a interference chart as a manager, which would be nice ... I think that's the up side of doin PDFs... it's real easy to do that sorta thing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 11:52:15 GMT -4
I agree that JJ Dillon would be better in a Official Cardstock Release, infact he should be in the upcoming release despite the theme or title of the set...
This game allows you to use wrestlers/managers any which way you want, so I'd rather see JJ Dillon in a Official Cardstock Set...
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Post by executioner on Apr 27, 2011 11:59:06 GMT -4
See, with a PDF, he could have a 'prime' wrestling card, and a interference chart as a manager, which would be nice ... I think that's the up side of doin PDFs... it's real easy to do that sorta thing. WRONG!!!! Just kidding. You have a valid point on PDF's being a way to create cards reflecting different aspects of a career, in this case Dillon is far above the Belgium Brawler and the like. Dillon certainly warrants a card in a regular LOW set.
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Post by wildfire on Apr 27, 2011 12:05:10 GMT -4
See, I don't care if they're PDF or cardstock... I'm gonna put the PDFs on cardstock, so it's 6 a one, 1/2 dozen of the other to me.
I just want to see them produced...it would somewhat defeat the purpose if guys like Dillon and Blue Meanie didn't get cards because they were 'good enough' to get a card stock card, but never seem to make it in a set (Dillon's been signed for quite a while, I know).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 12:14:15 GMT -4
Thats the issue with guys signed for a long time are skipped over, I agree with WF that the wrestlers&managers signed should be released and in my book if they are not released in a few years after signed, then they goto a PDF release...
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Post by Mike M on Apr 28, 2011 12:34:16 GMT -4
Regarding JJ Dillon, I believe that Tom addressed releasing him at GalactiCon one year.
Since Dillon is most famous for his association with the Horsemen, I think that Tom wanted to wait until he had someone from that stable to release him with. My memory might be off, but I think that he was "saving him" for that eventuality, much like Fonzie wasn't released before RVD.
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Post by wildfire on Apr 28, 2011 12:47:12 GMT -4
That does make sense on the one hand, but on the other, how likely are we to get any horseman? Flair would cost a fortune, and Arn Anderson still works for WWE, and I'd doubt Ole would do it while Arn is there... that'd be odd. Not sure about Blanchard or Windham, maybe they'd be possible, but still, Flair is really the Horsemen , and anyone else (Luger, Roma, Mongo, etc), eh.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2011 12:59:55 GMT -4
That does make sense on the one hand, but on the other, how likely are we to get any horseman? Flair would cost a fortune, and Arn Anderson still works for WWE, and I'd doubt Ole would do it while Arn is there... that'd be odd. Not sure about Blanchard or Windham, maybe they'd be possible, but still, Flair is really the Horsemen , and anyone else (Luger, Roma, Mongo, etc), eh. It makes sense to have someone key that Dillon managed, but he did have a short run with the Extreme Horsemen with Steve Corino and Justin Credible so in my book he semi has two he can manage... I agree with WF we may never see the original Horsemen in this game, not even sure about guys like Luger and the like. It would be a real shame if Dillon's card comes way too late...
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Post by lwffantrav on Apr 28, 2011 13:30:10 GMT -4
That does make sense on the one hand, but on the other, how likely are we to get any horseman? Flair would cost a fortune, and Arn Anderson still works for WWE, and I'd doubt Ole would do it while Arn is there... that'd be odd. Not sure about Blanchard or Windham, maybe they'd be possible, but still, Flair is really the Horsemen , and anyone else (Luger, Roma, Mongo, etc), eh. If Tom ever has the chance to sign Flair, go the Andre route and charge $5
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