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Post by Dustin on Jan 10, 2011 20:08:45 GMT -4
STRONG?
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Post by wildfire on Jan 11, 2011 9:47:55 GMT -4
Yeah, I expect it would be 'better' stats that they'd get if they had a regular legends card... like the difference between Trav's Lawler and the Olson's Lawler.
I think the color is a good choice for Chikara, black and white would be wierd since it's such an over-the-top, colorful sorta fed.
I agree with Ty the price could be an issue, though, especially if there's only a few 'new' guys.
Art looks great.... almost like Werner is trying to mimmick the CHikara website art without directly copying it... very good fit, IMO.
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Post by wildfire on Jan 11, 2011 10:16:43 GMT -4
Just did some surfing... there is NO SIGN of Chikara actually mentioning the game edition...that's kinda unfortunate.
Hopefully they will as time goes on... but right now the site, their facebook page, blog, etc has no sign.
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Post by BDS on Jan 11, 2011 17:43:19 GMT -4
Yeah, I expect it would be 'better' stats that they'd get if they had a regular legends card... like the difference between Trav's Lawler and the Olson's Lawler. That would be the thing that would actually make me get this set. I've never been able to wrap my head around legends: the hangup of mine about the time paradox of Gotch wrestling RVD and little issues like Dr. Death beating Monolith just left me incapable of getting into it. A self-contained Chikara set, with plenty of wrestlers who belong together thematically and historically with stats balanced against one another and not against other LOW/COTG wrestlers would get me playing again.
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Post by todd on Jan 11, 2011 20:45:56 GMT -4
Just did some surfing... there is NO SIGN of Chikara actually mentioning the game edition...that's kinda unfortunate. Hopefully they will as time goes on... but right now the site, their facebook page, blog, etc has no sign. There's an announcement on the Chikara face book page and they are using the Chikara game banner for thier profile pic
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Post by jasonjaconetti on Jan 11, 2011 21:20:35 GMT -4
Just did some surfing... there is NO SIGN of Chikara actually mentioning the game edition...that's kinda unfortunate. Hopefully they will as time goes on... but right now the site, their facebook page, blog, etc has no sign. There's an announcement on the Chikara face book page and they are using the Chikara game banner for thier profile pic which is a good sign! Hopefully they hype it & get more people involved. More people buying legends stuff (hopefully) the more (and quicker) new sets will come out.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jan 11, 2011 22:11:01 GMT -4
Anything Chikara will get me excited.
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Post by MT on Jan 12, 2011 0:29:07 GMT -4
That would be the thing that would actually make me get this set. I've never been able to wrap my head around legends: the hangup of mine about the time paradox of Gotch wrestling RVD and little issues like Dr. Death beating Monolith just left me incapable of getting into it. A self-contained Chikara set, with plenty of wrestlers who belong together thematically and historically with stats balanced against one another and not against other LOW/COTG wrestlers would get me playing again. I respect your opinion, but respectfully disagree with the sentiment that a guy like Gotch, making all things equal, couldn't adapt and find a way to beat a guy like RVD or that a Dr. Death wouldn't be able to find a way to win against a Monolith given the fictional nature of the work. If you're willing to accept a genetically modified Aethran/Andromedan hybrid then you seemingly have to allow for some creative license here. Maybe the human body, free from the constraints of our Earth's heavy gravity, gains strength and agility comparable to these other races. At any rate, I see no reason the CHIKARA set couldn't work as a stand-alone and also be compatible with the rest of the LOTF world. All they would have to do is adjust the benchmark of what is a "star card" compared to a middle of the pack card or an undercard guy. If Quackenbush, a middle of the pack guy in LOW terms, is the star CHIKARA card then all they have to do is make sure everyone else falls into the proper place stat-wise behind that card and it's all good. Take that bootleg Northern Outlaw Wrestling set Mark Holter released, for instance. The star card in that set was low to mid card in LOW terms, but the other cards were written to fall into line with that and it works well on it's own and is still compatible for use with the rest of the LOW/LOTF cards. In short, they don't need to adjust stats, just the idea of what a "good" card is in comparison to each other.
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Post by executioner on Jan 12, 2011 11:03:58 GMT -4
That would be the thing that would actually make me get this set. I've never been able to wrap my head around legends: the hangup of mine about the time paradox of Gotch wrestling RVD and little issues like Dr. Death beating Monolith just left me incapable of getting into it. A self-contained Chikara set, with plenty of wrestlers who belong together thematically and historically with stats balanced against one another and not against other LOW/COTG wrestlers would get me playing again. I respect your opinion, but respectfully disagree with the sentiment that a guy like Gotch, making all things equal, couldn't adapt and find a way to beat a guy like RVD or that a Dr. Death wouldn't be able to find a way to win against a Monolith given the fictional nature of the work. If you're willing to accept a genetically modified Aethran/Andromedan hybrid then you seemingly have to allow for some creative license here. Maybe the human body, free from the constraints of our Earth's heavy gravity, gains strength and agility comparable to these other races. At any rate, I see no reason the CHIKARA set couldn't work as a stand-alone and also be compatible with the rest of the LOTF world. All they would have to do is adjust the benchmark of what is a "star card" compared to a middle of the pack card or an undercard guy. If Quackenbush, a middle of the pack guy in LOW terms, is the star CHIKARA card then all they have to do is make sure everyone else falls into the proper place stat-wise behind that card and it's all good. Take that bootleg Northern Outlaw Wrestling set Mark Holter released, for instance. The star card in that set was low to mid card in LOW terms, but the other cards were written to fall into line with that and it works well on it's own and is still compatible for use with the rest of the LOW/LOTF cards. In short, they don't need to adjust stats, just the idea of what a "good" card is in comparison to each other. I am not entirely certain I will get the Chikara color set, but the art is sure a big draw at this point. As far as using wrestlers from different eras goes, I have had tremendous matches when I cross eras. Gotch v. Tiger Mask is one example for me. And I have no problem making the transition. I treat the Vintage guys as essentially MMA fighters or olympic style wrestlers entering pro wrestling. Not a problem. I mean heck if someone can BELIEVE that the "conflicts of the future will be decided in a wrestling ring" is plausible, then I guess anything should go. Even if the Chikara guys are amped up, I still see them fitting in just fine. The example Mark gave on the NOW set is very appropriate. I have used the NOW cards for sometime and find they fit into LOTF just fine and hold their own as a stand alone set as well. I won't get to worked up til more details come out (price for example) and who is in the set. Truthfully I think this should be a positive all around for FG and fans.
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Post by tyguy on Jan 12, 2011 12:23:02 GMT -4
It always comes down to the details that don't get released for some time, and this set was announced six months in advance. Like who will be in it, I wonder if all the names in the set will be released. Given it should draw in the Chikara wrestling fan, assuming it will be sold by them at wrestling shows, it would be hard to not say who is going to be in the set like they do to us or wait until right before it's released to put the last name out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2011 12:54:32 GMT -4
I've never had issue mixing LOW and LOTF, overall each person has his own mindset and pet peeves in how they play the game and thats why it's a great game...
The color set and stand alone Chikara release gives FG a new avenue with the small indy fed that could lead to more people playing...
I have a feeling the feedback after seeing the color Chikara cards to the old B&W cards will lead FG to color all the past LOW/LOTF cards or start coloring with the next new set and beyond...
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Post by executioner on Jan 12, 2011 12:57:35 GMT -4
You could well be right CC, if the color Chikara set does well, this could be a "gateway" to Legends color.
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Post by MT on Jan 12, 2011 22:52:20 GMT -4
I have a feeling the feedback after seeing the color Chikara cards to the old B&W cards will lead FG to color all the past LOW/LOTF cards or start coloring with the next new set and beyond... I'll tell you why this almost has to happen, and it's something most people don't consider: anyone with a passable scanner, a minor amount of ability to make a decent spreadsheet file (or use a pre-existing template), and a decent scanner can get cardstock at Wal-Mart or somewhere and make cards of almost indistinguishably comparable quality to the black and white official cards. The technology and DIY ability of the fans has surpassed the usefulness of black and white cards for a company that wants to make money. The art by guys like Steve Stanley and Darryl Banks is the only thing a fan can't mimic.
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Post by tyguy on Jan 12, 2011 23:12:42 GMT -4
I think it's almost a sure thing that future Legends sets will be color now. I just don't see deciding to do a Chikara set in color but not anything else.
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Post by jasonjaconetti on Jan 12, 2011 23:28:10 GMT -4
To be totally honest, color or b/w means nothing to me. As long as the stats are quality, color or b/w is a moot point.
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