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Post by maddog1981 on Aug 31, 2013 7:35:59 GMT -4
I figured this would be a good idea for a thread. I'm watching some stuff that I want to comment on but don't want to start a new thread every time I do.
Started the 2010 G-1 Climax. With all puro I watch a couple of matches at a time and this will be no different. Shout out to IVP's fucking awesome download service. It's cheap, it's quick and I love the fact that I don't have to drop $30 at a time for New Japan anymore.
Giant Bernard vs. Wataru Inoue
So we have your typical giant monster vs. little guy. This wasn't a classic or anything but it was a really energetic opener. You know from the start that Inoue doesn't have a chance in this one but they actually built his hope spots so well that there's 2 or 3 moments where you think he might actually pull off the upset. The highlight of the match is where he finally catches Bernard with a german suplex for a nearfall. I almost gasped because I thought he was going to pull off the win. Bernard finally hit the Baldo Bomb for the win. This match really shows how misused Bernard is in the WWE. He just put a methodical beatdown in on Inoue with a few explosive moments. He just felt like a monster in this one.
Manabu Nakanishi vs. Toru Yano
Full disclosure, I'm a Nakanishi mark especially the older grumpier version. Nakanishi chops the shit out of Yano to start. Yano fights back and clobbers him with a chair on the outside. They go back and forth in the ring before Nakanishi caught him with a bridging german suplex for the win. This wasn't good but it was short and it stayed short enough to be fun.
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Post by maddog1981 on Aug 31, 2013 21:42:41 GMT -4
More 2010 G-1 Climax
Prince Devitt vs. Mr. Strong
Dug this match a lot more than I thought I would. Strong press slammed Devitt into the third row of the crowd during this one. Devitt got the win with a roll up. Mr. Strong is a pretty solid roid freak.
Satoshi Kojima and El Samuari vs. Hirooki Goto and Ryusuke Taguchi
Kind of surprised by how this one ended. Solid little tag used mostly to let Kojima show off his shit. Totally a piss break kind of match though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 23:37:30 GMT -4
Strong Man is the best.
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Post by maddog1981 on Sept 1, 2013 11:37:55 GMT -4
Some fan gave him the double bird when he came in and was really happy with himself. I showed it to my wife because it was kind of funny and she immediately said "I don't think I would do that to that guy." For some weird reason, I've never seen him before. He started in CMLL like right after I lost access to the shows and he started in New Japan about six months after I stopped watching full shows. But he's pretty awesome. Brutal chops and works the basic big man moveset better than just about anyone I've seen.
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Post by maddog1981 on Sept 1, 2013 12:00:49 GMT -4
More G-1:
Go Shiozaki vs. Yujiro Takahashi
Meh to this one. It was one of those "I hit my stuff, you hit your stuff" wankfest kind of match I hate. No real drama here as they weren't going to bring Go in and then job him to someone on Takahashi's level. It wasn't terrible or anything but not memorable.
That closes out disc 1 of Night 1. What's left on deck for this weekend:
Karl Anderson vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi
Tetsuya Naito vs. Togi Makabe
Yuji Nagata vs. Shinsuke Nakamura
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 13:30:15 GMT -4
Hope you're cool with me contributing to the thread.
Owen Hart vs. 1-2-3 Kid; King of the Ring 1994:
This is one of my favorite matches of all time. Sure, it's not a 10-15 minute match. But guess what? It didn't need to be. These two go out there for ~4 minutes and have a much better match than I've seen guys have in 30. Owen Hart was one of the best at working with guys like Kid, and this was when Waltman was arguably at his peak. I remember being blown away by this when it aired on PPV and when I got KOTR 94 on VHS several years back, I was blown away by this match again.
Nearly TWENTY YEARS after seeing this for the first time/the night it happened, it's still in my top 5 favorite matches of all time. There is no other match I can think of to hold that distinction. I think that speaks volumes about how great this really is. RIP Owen.
Andre the Giant vs. Stan Hansen; NJPW 1981
I love this match. And honestly, "real life Godzilla battle" doesn't do this justice. This is like if Godzilla and King Kong had twins and they decided to fight it the fuck out in the middle of Tokyo. They don't need dives, they don't need your stinkin' apron spots and they damn sure don't need your head drops. No sir, this is two big ass dudes clubbering the crap out of each other and it's a blast. Andre the Giant in his prime (even coming down from his prime) is still better than most guys in their prime. And why? Because he's Andre the Giant.
Hulk Hogan vs. Ultimate Warrior; WrestleMania VI:
This match is great, probably the best WrestleMania main event until WrestleMania X-Seven, not that this is a huge accomplishment, WrestleMania's best matches have long been undercard matches. With that said, at first glance you'd think this is awful. And it should have been, but Pat Patterson, being the genius he is, laid this out in detail beforehand. Obviously a lot could still go wrong because you can't guarantee that the guys will be able to execute the match the way Pat envisioned it, but they DID.
What Pat did was craft a very basic story for the two to go tell, but even in its simplicity there's a lot of nice, subtle touches. The opening shoving contest sets the table for the match, with Warrior striking first. Warrior is the first to get the advantage in the test of strength. Warrior is the one who recovers quicker from the double clothesline. These kinds of things are really minor but they manage to add up during the match. For all of Hogan's power and invincibility, this shows that there's someone who can match him in both of those aspects and as Jesse Ventura mentions, Warrior has youth on his side.
The last third of the match is a blast. There's a ref bump (before Russo!) and they play up that it was a frequent occurrence to Hogan's opponents and now he's the one who has to deal with it. Both guys go for their finishing sequences, but one of them crashes hard and it immediately sets up the finish. For where the WWF was in April 1990 and given the two participants, this was one of the best matches in company history and in my opinion it stands the test of time well. The story is simple, yet deep. The work is generally very good and the crowd ruled. This is what Rock vs. Cena should have been.
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Post by maddog1981 on Sept 1, 2013 17:16:05 GMT -4
Nope, I was hoping you would throw stuff in too.
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Post by maddog1981 on Sept 2, 2013 7:13:55 GMT -4
WWF Championship Wrestling 1-5-85:
U.S. Express d. Charlie Fulton and Rusty Brooks
Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkoff d. Mario Mancini and Steve Lombardi
WWF Tag Team Champions Adrian Adonis and Dick Murdoch d. Paul Roma and Salvatore Bellomo
"Dr. D" David Schultz d. Jim Young
Jack and Gerry Brisco d. Dave Barbie and Geno Garballo
I like Championship Wrestling better than Superstars for whatever reason. This show was an interesting little time capsule.
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Post by maddog1981 on Sept 2, 2013 7:15:26 GMT -4
You know, for as maligned as the Ultimate Warrior is. He had a really good string of matches from 1989-1991.
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Post by maddog1981 on Sept 2, 2013 7:19:11 GMT -4
Karl Anderson vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi
They pulled the trigger on the first upset of the tournament as Anderson caught Tanahashi with a diamond cutter as he came off the top rope. They didn't mesh well in this match. The early stuff with Anderson attacking the leg was pretty good. But it kind of turned into a disjointed mess after that. It felt like Anderson forgot how to do every move in the book as he hit probably 3 or more diamond cutters during this match. The match was good when Tanahashi was in control but those segments were few and far between. Oh well, can't win them all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 16:01:55 GMT -4
You know, for as maligned as the Ultimate Warrior is. He had a really good string of matches from 1989-1991. Yeah, he really did. The matches with Rude (except the cage match), the matches with Hogan and Savage, he had a couple really good ones with DiBiase and Perfect and I recall a match with Dino Bravo that was pretty good. |
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Post by maddog1981 on Sept 2, 2013 16:22:21 GMT -4
His stuff with Taker is surprisingly solid as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 17:41:11 GMT -4
I remember hearing Warrior say he liked those matches. I remember the one from Rampage '91 and the Bodybag match. Not huge on either of those but they're not as bad as some people want to claim they are.
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Post by maddog1981 on Sept 2, 2013 18:26:44 GMT -4
They aren't amazing matches but when you consider that you're watching the Ultimate Warrior vs. the Undertaker, you need to judge it accordingly.
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Post by maddog1981 on Sept 3, 2013 7:49:37 GMT -4
I'm really annoyed that Gabe asked IVP to stop selling DG DVDs. It's not like USA is ever going to sell those shows themselves. But that's Gabe for you, can't have all that free advertising out there. I'm pretty sure that no one would give a fuck about his promotion if it wasn't for places like IVP building him an audience.
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