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Post by todd on Jan 16, 2012 15:15:11 GMT -4
I always liked Graham's promos for the most part .They might not have been the greatest but very entertaining in a Muhammad Ali sort of way. I dont get the Stone Cold reference either. As far as I know the guy who was Stone Cold before Stone Cold was Doctor D David Shultz
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Post by maddog1981 on Jan 16, 2012 16:57:15 GMT -4
Backlund is really over if you go back to his title reign. And he was a good foil for the big name heels of that era. He could work technical, he could brawl and he knew how to work the big guys like Slaughter really well. Backlund's reign makes a lot of sense when you look at the landscape of the time he wrestled. That and there weren't reliable faces to put the belt on around then.
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Post by todd on Jan 17, 2012 0:19:23 GMT -4
Backlund's reign makes a lot of sense when you look at the landscape of the time he wrestled. That and there weren't reliable faces to put the belt on around then. Dusty Rhodes
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Post by maddog1981 on Jan 17, 2012 0:39:48 GMT -4
I don't believe Rhodes was attainable during those years and I don't think they would've put the belt on him.
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Post by tax on Jan 17, 2012 7:51:50 GMT -4
Rhodes wrestled Graham several times for the belt. I think they might have toyed with making him champ.
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Post by todd on Jan 17, 2012 8:55:43 GMT -4
Rhodes wrestled Graham several times for the belt. I think they might have toyed with making him champ. Here's a promo about about a title match in march 1978. It never happened because Backlund won the title in February. I think this might have been changed to a cowbell match not sure.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jan 17, 2012 12:36:00 GMT -4
Rhodes wrestled Graham several times for the belt. I think they might have toyed with making him champ. He was around for a run against Graham. They were also toying with NWA membership. He was still primarily a Florida guy that cake up for a program and then made his exit. From what I know, they never showed interest in putting the belt on him.
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Post by lwffantrav on Jan 17, 2012 17:01:41 GMT -4
Does anyone consider Pat Patterson an IC Champ?
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Post by MT on Jan 17, 2012 20:16:54 GMT -4
Patterson was actually the North American champion (won in a match) when thy decided to change it over to the Intercontinental title. He was awarded the I-C belt via fictional tournament, but he DEFENDED it over a period of about a year and a half. Therefore he actually had a title reign, as opposed to simply walking to the ring being called champ once. That's the distinction.
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Post by todd on Jan 17, 2012 20:21:58 GMT -4
Does anyone consider Pat Patterson an IC Champ? Patterson did defeat Ted Dibiase for the North American title the same title was renamed the Intercontinental title later on. There was something about a fake unification tournament attached to it but Patterson did win the title and held it for maybe a year. Off the wrestling subject I completely believe all of those stories that came about Patterson liking young boys. I had a friend who was approached by Patterson after a TV taping in Allentown. Patterson and some other guy who I guess was one of his boyfriends tried getting my friend to go for a ride with them in a station wagon. My friend didn't go and later on his father reported it to the people who ran Agricultural Hall and the local police. As far as I know nothing came out of it.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jan 17, 2012 20:35:50 GMT -4
If you go back to the MSG shows and television during Graham's reign, you'll see Backlund getting built up a lot. He and Graham feuded for quite awhile too. You can see the direction in the booking and it was Backlund getting the belt from Graham that was in the cards.
Now, if you want to talk about faces on the roster at the time. They weren't going to go back to Sammartino after 2 lengthy reigns. Morales was getting moved down, not up. From there you have guys that weren't WWWF Title material.
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Post by Peter F on Jan 17, 2012 23:01:45 GMT -4
Two little things to clarify:
The W(W)WF was an NWA member from 1971-83.
The North American and IC titles are separate championships. Patterson lost the NA title to Seiji Sakaguchi in Japan. And yeah, Patterson had a fruitful reign as IC champ. Long enough for him to turn from heel to babyface in the middle of it.
I'd also like to throw out Wahoo McDaniel's name as another potential '70s babyface champion for the WWWF.
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Post by Chad Olson on Jan 17, 2012 23:28:47 GMT -4
Bockwinkel was a god among men. His title reigns were decreed from on high. This just bears repeating!
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Post by MT on Jan 18, 2012 8:52:40 GMT -4
Two little things to clarify: The W(W)WF was an NWA member from 1971-83. The North American and IC titles are separate championships. Patterson lost the NA title to Seiji Sakaguchi in Japan. And yeah, Patterson had a fruitful reign as IC champ. Long enough for him to turn from heel to babyface in the middle of it. I'd also like to throw out Wahoo McDaniel's name as another potential '70s babyface champion for the WWWF. Let's muddy the waters some more: How does one lose the NORTH AMERICAN title in JAPAN (Asia)? I say the lineage splits there and I-C belt= NA belt.
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Post by Peter F on Jan 18, 2012 13:18:32 GMT -4
The same way the European title constantly changed hands in the U.S.
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