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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 12:04:27 GMT -4
So the new Adam Cole card art looks great however I have an issue with it being too dark and more in line with a CZW release with the all black background. It is so out of place with the rest of the ROH cards. I'm thinking the design choice for this card was not the best given all the other cards in this set have the usual background art. Adam Cole should have had the same. The straight black backgrounds I felt were reserved for the CZW cards. Again not against the artwork it looks awesome if this were for a CZW set. But for a championship run Adam Cole I expected something more consistent with the current ROH line AND brighter to showcase Adam Cole as a champion. It's based on Cole's ROH ring entrance: all the lights go down except the gold lights in the entrance backlighting Cole. Then it's just the one spotlight in the arena following him to the ring apron. It's pretty impressive live. In fact, here's a youtube video of it from the last ROH show I did attend live: AS far as all of this talk about Stevens and Albright and these other guys most people don't even remember anymore; I'm even more down on that idea than I was on the last set. At least guys like Aries, Claudio, and the others are still relevant to wrestling in general today, and Hero ended up coming back between the time the set was announced and it being released. A current TV company should not be letting product come out that looks back instead of focusing on the current product they're trying to sell, in my opinion. On a personal and selfish level, I was not watching ROH on HDNet for the most part and have no connection to guys like Albright and Stevens, so I wouldn't do anything with the cards. I feel like a lot of people outside of the niche FG community would probably be the same way. Then again, I'm not sure who the audience for these cards IS outside of the niche FG community. Maybe they're bringing in new people with them, maybe they're not. That is great and all but I still think staying in line with the various sets this just doesn't work for a ROH Traditions card. It sticks out like a sore thumb when you look at how the other cards are presented. This just screams CZW rather than ROH. I'm not knocking the artwork at all. I like it, but it just doesn't feel like a ROH card.
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Post by MT on Jul 1, 2014 13:18:51 GMT -4
That is great and all but I still think staying in line with the various sets this just doesn't work for a ROH Traditions card. It sticks out like a sore thumb when you look at how the other cards are presented. This just screams CZW rather than ROH. I'm not knocking the artwork at all. I like it, but it just doesn't feel like a ROH card. [/quote] Then you're really going to hate the artwork for that Jay Lethal bonus card.......
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 15:55:38 GMT -4
That is great and all but I still think staying in line with the various sets this just doesn't work for a ROH Traditions card. It sticks out like a sore thumb when you look at how the other cards are presented. This just screams CZW rather than ROH. I'm not knocking the artwork at all. I like it, but it just doesn't feel like a ROH card. Then you're really going to hate the artwork for that Jay Lethal bonus card.......[/quote] I'm not hating on anything. I said I liked the artwork just didn't think it was a wise choice design wise for this set. Sheesh.
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Post by MT on Jul 1, 2014 16:49:57 GMT -4
That is great and all but I still think staying in line with the various sets this just doesn't work for a ROH Traditions card. It sticks out like a sore thumb when you look at how the other cards are presented. This just screams CZW rather than ROH. I'm not knocking the artwork at all. I like it, but it just doesn't feel like a ROH card. Then you're really going to hate the artwork for that Jay Lethal bonus card....... I'm not hating on anything. I said I liked the artwork just didn't think it was a wise choice design wise for this set. Sheesh. [/quote] Friend Pitbull, I know it's Canada Day, but you don't have to go all Lance Storm "if I could be serious for a minute" on me. I was just playing! I get what you were expressing. Also, there is no Jay Lethal bonus card....I'm pretty sure. Actually, I have no idea what the bonus card is because it hasn't been announced yet, but I'd bet against Lethal. To be honest, I think the Cole art is good but not necessarily what I would have done. I'd have gone a few more moments into his entrance to where he's standing under the spotlight pointing down at the title belt. Still would have been black background though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 17:17:08 GMT -4
"Go all Lance Storm". Nice! Love it! I actually chuckled out loud on that one.
So how many have Adam Cole as your champion and will swap out cards once you get the new set? I will wait until he gets the belt before I use the new card or I might even swap it out now and just use this one anyways.
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Post by swarm on Jul 1, 2014 17:41:10 GMT -4
"Go all Lance Storm". Nice! Love it! I actually chuckled out loud on that one. So how many have Adam Cole as your champion and will swap out cards once you get the new set? I will wait until he gets the belt before I use the new card or I might even swap it out now and just use this one anyways. Not my champion, but he did make the final 4 of Impossible Tournament of Honor 2, good enough reason for me to retire his original card and use the new one. I love it. I agree it's polarizing. His stats will make him the real deal, whereas his current stats imo don't give him a realistic chance of winning the ROH Title in my fed. Michael Elgin is my current TV Champion, so I'm going to go ahead and debut Cole's new card vs. Elgin at my July supercard Summer of Honor. Big test for the new Adam Cole card fans. I'll wait to use the Jay Briscoe singles card until I'm ready to pull the trigger on the Briscoe vs. Cole feud. I guess Cole has to become my champion before that can happen if I decide to repeat history. Maybe I'll make up my own storyline for him. Not sure yet.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 1, 2014 18:23:14 GMT -4
I wasn't championing the cause of Stevens or Albright. Just using them as a comparison basis of how little interest I have in Matt Hardy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 19:21:12 GMT -4
I was planning on swapping CZW Cole for ROH Champion Cole and then he failed to beat Danielson because why actually win the world title when you can keep holding champions to time limit draws.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 20:20:16 GMT -4
I'm having a hard time having guys able to stay in the upper rankings with Steen and are able to "go" at a moments notice. So this new Cole card and even the new Briscoe cards will be nice when I want to pull the trigger as it were on injecting some new competitors to face Steen. Daniels and Kazarian will be nice additions to my tag team division for now to ease them into my fed and slowly see them gain some singles runs on the side.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 20:27:46 GMT -4
The new Cole and Briscoe cards will definitely be good challengers for Steen. Danielson will be as well, if you're open to using that card. Steen's a card that is ridiculously good but he never really wins big matches for me. Everyone else has him doing pretty well in their fed and I'm sitting here like I'd kill to have him be a realistic threat to my title. Same situation with Elgin. Great card, dice rolls kill him EVERY time.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 1, 2014 20:48:46 GMT -4
Steen is that guy for me that wins 99% of his matches until you put a title of some kind on the line. Then he can't get himself DQed or pinned quick enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 22:33:57 GMT -4
You know, I really wish Davey wasn't a shithead who burned bridges because I'd love to have an early ROH Davey. Either NRC Davey or just before that. Not that it would be better stat-wise than ROH World Champion Davey like in the first set, but he'd be a hell of a fun alternate card to use like the Donst SE with the Chikara Intro set Donst.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 1, 2014 23:39:38 GMT -4
Cole's new card kind of makes me want to push back my World Title tournament and debut his new card there.
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Post by MT on Jul 2, 2014 2:06:11 GMT -4
It's been so long since I played ROH I am thinking I could just reboot and drop all the new cards into the mix right away. With Hooligans and (the former) Bad Influence in the mix the tag division will be a lot stronger.
....just hoping for a bonus card of Romantic Touch now and this set will be complete.
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Post by swarm on Jul 2, 2014 6:08:20 GMT -4
The bonus card is Kazarian in a white t shirt. Stats are the same. I might team him with white mask Delirious.
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