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Post by shazam6000 on Mar 17, 2008 13:51:03 GMT -4
I stole this idea on from Tim Dalton on the other board. The idea is place to discuss , debate and dissect booking ideas.
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Post by shazam6000 on Mar 17, 2008 13:55:21 GMT -4
One of my worst matches ever was on my last LOW card The Sandman VS Gorgeous George. Neither one of this guys has done much of anything for me so I put them up against each other to see what would happen. The result was an incredibly long and boring match. Has anyone else had put these two against each other?
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Post by pikemojo on Mar 17, 2008 23:00:34 GMT -4
I don't think I have ever put those 2 against each other but I have had a few matches that just seemed like they dragged on with nothing really happening.
I don't mind a longer match as long as it is full of action but I have had some where it just seems like neither man can get a pin.
Let me recommend to everyone a feud between Bruiser Brody and Mil Mascaras. That is a feud that will get you excited about some matches.
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Post by Cory Olson on Mar 18, 2008 0:22:38 GMT -4
Good topic, CC. Here's a booking question for you guys. How long do you wait to give a guy title shot? Is it more based on wins-losses, or storyline? For those that read my USWA thread, you've seen the feud with World champ "Strangler" Lewis and The Destroyer, who attacked Lewis and collected the bounty set on him by Bobby Heenan. Without giving away too much, Destroyer will probably get a shot soon. He just returned to the USWA, after a year plus absence, but I'm basing part of his shot on his past record in the USWA, not just this time around. Do you guys have any set rule for title shots? It's interesting, cause in real life MMA, this is a topic, as you want to give a guy a title shot based on his wins-losses, but it's got to be a fight that draws money too.
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Post by Cory Olson on Mar 18, 2008 0:27:52 GMT -4
Let me recommend to everyone a feud between Bruiser Brody and Mil Mascaras. That is a feud that will get you excited about some matches. Sounds like an interesting matchup, Pike. Neither guy is in my fed at the moment, but I may have to book them against each other down the line. CC, I may have had Sandman and George fight each other at one point, but I'd have to double check my earlier records. I don't recall any memorable matches between the two off the top of my head. I'm sure with the personalities involved, you could come up with all kinds of storylines.
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Post by brianu on Mar 18, 2008 9:09:05 GMT -4
Do you guys have any set rule for title shots? It's interesting, cause in real life MMA, this is a topic, as you want to give a guy a title shot based on his wins-losses, but it's got to be a fight that draws money too. I don't have a set rule for determining title shots. But the contender has to be doing well win/loss wise and make sense storyline winse that they get a shot. Finally the match-up has to be interesting to play out.
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Post by shazam6000 on Mar 18, 2008 9:34:43 GMT -4
Good topic, CC. Here's a booking question for you guys. How long do you wait to give a guy title shot? Is it more based on wins-losses, or storyline? For those that read my USWA thread, you've seen the feud with World champ "Strangler" Lewis and The Destroyer, who attacked Lewis and collected the bounty set on him by Bobby Heenan. Without giving away too much, Destroyer will probably get a shot soon. He just returned to the USWA, after a year plus absence, but I'm basing part of his shot on his past record in the USWA, not just this time around. Do you guys have any set rule for title shots? It's interesting, cause in real life MMA, this is a topic, as you want to give a guy a title shot based on his wins-losses, but it's got to be a fight that draws money too. I dont really have a set rule either for title shots. I try to go by ratings based on everything a wrestler has done not just the win/loss record. There's so much that the numbers really dont say about a wrestler's performance. I given title shots based on the storyline but not too often
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Post by holland227 on Mar 18, 2008 12:30:16 GMT -4
Its funny because I had a Gorgeous George/Sandman match that ended in a bloddy Double DQ, whcih lead down a month of storyline between the two and intertwined with Frank Gotch and Jimmy Snuka. I was excited about it. I guess it depends on how your matches go. I don't ever imagine Gorgeous George as a hardcore guy but when he gets busted open, I sent him in a rage
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Post by Cory Olson on Mar 18, 2008 16:20:20 GMT -4
That's an interesting storyline, Holland. I wouldn't picture George as being "hardcore" on the level of Sandman, Sabu, and the other ECW guys. But he was sneaky and would cheat to win. I could see him fighting dirty against certain opponents.
In my USWA fed, George was a three-time Southern Heavyweight champ. I often saw him as a heel champ like a Ric Flair, who would often get DQ'd or do whatever he could to hold on to the gold.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 16:32:26 GMT -4
I determine who gets a title shot based on Win/loss and based on howan existing angle might play out. Since the Win/Loss will affect my rankings it is those within the Top 10 that may garner themselves a title shot. But for my Heavyweight Title it comes down to who is in the top 5.
The Sandman VS Gorgeous George has never happened in my fed(s). And if it has George would have mopped the floor with Sandman. George is currently recovering from an injury at a house show whilst working in my Maple Leaf Fed. And Sandman is in my AJPW fed doing rather well for a change.
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Post by shazam6000 on Mar 20, 2008 0:10:17 GMT -4
Ok just wondering how you guys keep things interesting when the storylines start getting a little weak. I think holding tournaments help spice things up a little
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Post by Cory Olson on Mar 20, 2008 17:09:52 GMT -4
Ok just wondering how you guys keep things interesting when the storylines start getting a little weak. I think holding tournaments help spice things up a little That's a good thought with tournaments. Any specific type of tournaments you do, like for a title shot? It seems with my USWA fed, that when a New Year starts, that in some ways things start "anew". It seems like new feuds start, often just based on the result of one match. I usually have some feuds in mind that I plan to do, but often the best feuds come about because two guys have a great series of matches, or one bout ends in a DQ, and they have a crazy rematch. Often the dice "spice" things up the most, which is kind of cool.
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Post by shazam6000 on Mar 20, 2008 18:59:32 GMT -4
Ok just wondering how you guys keep things interesting when the storylines start getting a little weak. I think holding tournaments help spice things up a little That's a good thought with tournaments. Any specific type of tournaments you do, like for a title shot? It seems with my USWA fed, that when a New Year starts, that in some ways things start "anew". It seems like new feuds start, often just based on the result of one match. I usually have some feuds in mind that I plan to do, but often the best feuds come about because two guys have a great series of matches, or one bout ends in a DQ, and they have a crazy rematch. Often the dice "spice" things up the most, which is kind of cool. In the past i've done things like Thanksgiving Day and International tournaments. I have a tournament planned now for my United States Title. Tournaments are good ways to introduce new people and create new rivalaries
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Post by Cory Olson on Mar 21, 2008 9:26:34 GMT -4
Tournaments are good ways to introduce new people and create new rivalaries I have always been hesitant, both in my old COTG feds as well in my current USWA, to introduce new wrestlers in a tournament. I think in "real life" wrestling which controls the outcomes, if you want to a push a new guy, then, yes, it's a great way. You can have him win over more established wrestlers in one night (or one tournament, if it's spread out over several cards). In LOW/COTG, since the dice determine the outcomes, it's hard to bring in a new guy in a tournament and see how he would do. I'm fine with him getting to the semifinals or finals and losing, but if he gets eliminated quickly in the first round by George South or Larry Sharpe, then it's not the best debut!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2008 9:29:03 GMT -4
Or Worse....Savage T! ;D
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